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Old 06-25-2009, 07:24 PM
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I can see both sides of this one though - the biological parent has the right to privacy, but I'm not sure that trumps an adopted child's desire (and occasionally need) to be forewarned (commonly to decide whether they wish to risk passing on the gene or decide not to have biological children for fear of passing it down).
No one's DESIRE trumps someone's FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS. Ever. This is America. I can't think of one time when someone NEEDS to have medical history. It's nice to have. Makes the doctor's job easier, but never once has someone not been able to be treated because they don't have medical history.

And so what do you do with people who like I said, were never adopted and for whatever reason have no access to their family medical history? Should they never have children just because? Puhhhleeze.
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No one's DESIRE trumps someone's FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS. Ever. This is America. I can't think of one time when someone NEEDS to have medical history. It's nice to have. Makes the doctor's job easier, but never once has someone not been able to be treated because they don't have medical history.

And so what do you do with people who like I said, were never adopted and for whatever reason have no access to their family medical history? Should they never have children just because? Puhhhleeze.
Aw c'mon, that's not what I said

It did provoke a question though...

If the semen provider is aware of their own genetic downfall and goes ahead with donating semen (or impregnating someone) without disclosure, would that make the donor liable for anything? Would that be similar to the cases where an Aids-infected person has knowingly infected someone else and is consequently charged with a criminal offense?

(Sorry for the hijack...though it is somewhat related. Sort of. Kinda)
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These days, many inherited conditions can be tested for.

If this man wanted to know his kid, he'd be easily contacted. He apparently doesn't. Move on.
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Dog: If I have a marker for say, CF, and know it, and has sex with someone else who has a marker for CF, and we make a baby, it's not a crime that I'm aware of.
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Dog: If I have a marker for say, CF, and know it, and has sex with someone else who has a marker for CF, and we make a baby, it's not a crime that I'm aware of.
Agreed.

Implying that only fit and healthy people should reproduce is rather scary. Makes me think of a certain Final Solution that included doing away with ill, frail, mentally ill, developmentally disabled, retarded persons etc.
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Dog: If I have a marker for say, CF, and know it, and has sex with someone else who has a marker for CF, and we make a baby, it's not a crime that I'm aware of.
The premise did remind me about the Nushawn Williams case (if I remember correctly, NY man was prosecuted for concealing his known HIV diagnosis - he admitted it in court but retracted it and said he didn't actually know, later on).

I'm having weird Gattaca flashbacks too
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Agreed.

Implying that only fit and healthy people should reproduce is rather scary. Makes me think of a certain Final Solution that included doing away with ill, frail, mentally ill, developmentally disabled, retarded persons etc.
Google Eugenics. Already been tried. Vermont did a gangbuster job of it so much so that Hitler copied it.

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Google Eugenics. Already been tried. Vermont did a gangbuster job of it so much so that Hitler copied it.

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Old 06-26-2009, 03:13 PM
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Just to put a ribbon on this....

The moment your step father adopted you, your biological father became a legal stranger.

This means that you have no more right to his medical history than a person walking down the street past you has to yours. In the eyes of the law, you two are no more attached than you and I.

I think the above poster was referring to instances of organ and/or bone marrow transplant where a biologically close personage may be a more exact match than going to the database.

Even in those cases, however, nothing will force the biological parent to submit to the test and/or donate tissue.
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