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Old 07-03-2004, 08:39 AM
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CPS - illegal adoption???


What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? What is the name of your state? We live in Tx.

Our family is completely heartbroken and trying to work with CPS to get our grand daughter. We have been trying to get custody for the last 10 yrs, since the day she was born. Each time the maternal grand mother found out she'd leave the state. Yes, we kept chasing them and when she would return some times we were allowed visitation rights. She would show alone asking for money and this added up to thousands over the years. We're not complaing - wouldn't want our doll to do lack for anything.

In Feb. we found out our grand daughters mother passsed away and wanted to know what our baby was. Come to find out CPS in Harris county had her.
Well the battle is on. It seems when the hearing was held neither her dad or us were notified. We've lived in the same house for 29 yrs so that can not be used as an excuse. Her maternal grand father said CPS DID know were we could be contacted and was surprised that we didn't show up for the hearing. Heck, we would have been there with bells on our feet and lots of supporters.

We are still waiting word from CPS as to whether our precious little one has been adopted or still in the system. We want our baby and feel that CPS over stepped their bounds by not notifying anyone. All and any suggestions would be appreciated on what else we can do. Our entire family is heart broken especially her daddy.

We have advised CPS in writing that we can provide lots of love and security for our cherised baby. This little girl has had a terrible life and we decided since everyone in the area knows about her other grand mother (not a good thing) for example she set her husband on fire, neighborhood drunk and even pulled a gun on a 6 yr. old that we'd move up to our other house so her past is behind her and will have her educated in a private school. We think she'd enjoy country living and know she loves to fish.

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Jan
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Old 07-03-2004, 09:17 AM
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Were Mom & Dad ever married? Has Dad been legally found to be the father? Was there ever a custody order? When you had visitation, why did Dad allow the grandmother to take the child?
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Old 07-03-2004, 09:52 AM
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Mom and Dad were never legally married but did live together off and on for years. His name was not on the birth certificate but DNA proved he was the father. Yes he was supporting her when the grand mother hadn't fled to Mexico, Colorado or where ever each time she learned we were trying to get custody. Sad to say the grand mother had serious mental health issues and even the cops were scared to death of her. One night she threatened to shot our son when he had gone into the baby's room to change her diaper and give her a bottle. No doubt in anyones mind she'd would shoot to kill.
Our other son, her uncle had a business not to far from where the woman lived and he too was always giving her money when asked should I not be there. Knew better than to ask her to sign a receipt and she didn't have any type of bank or checking account.

On many occasions the baby's mother would live with us, without the baby as her mother even threated to kill her. The last time she stayed with us
her mother had started a barn fire in her front yard and was tossing every thing from the house she could, furniture and all. At this time we asked the mother to go with us to CPS to help us get custody but she refused out of fear of what would happen to the baby. Sad situation.

Several time the grand mother would appeared at our house without the baby and in front of witnesses, even some police officers stated that if we didn't quit trying to get HER baby, she'd kill her. Of course, we backed off out of fear for our little ones life and did things her way. Really had no choice. CPS does have written notarized statement from lots witnesses relating to these threats.

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Old 07-06-2004, 03:41 PM
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Isn't it terrible what our little ones must endure? You have to have money
to fight for them and there are no guarantees. I am praying for you and
your little granddaughter. We have had no luck trying to deal with CPS.
God bless you in your struggle. Hope you'll have good news soon.
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Old 07-07-2004, 08:14 AM
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Things are looking up. Our attorney told us to quit trying to get any help from CPS. Turns out the hearing was a farce and that our sons parental rights were never severed. CPS claims they tried to contact our son 5x's Bull is what I have to say. The judge involved knew us and where we could be found but understand he was real nasty to the maternal grand father. Would have been different if we weren't in the same house for over 29 years

We told our attorney that if need be we'd mortgage our home if that's what it takes but she assured us it wouldn't get to that point. She despises CPS, said they make up their own rules as they go along knowing full well what they're doing is illegal . Kinda hoping they'll be a hearing - won't look good for CPS with a court room full of police officers, judges and nuns

Once the dust settles down we do plan on suing them not so much for our sake but just can't imagine putting another child thru college when we in our 70's and on social security Should we get any money it will go into a trust fund for her college education or what ever her endeavors will be.
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Old 07-07-2004, 08:16 AM
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It's time to get a family law attorney involved. Your son needs to immediately file for custody of the child and force (habeas Corpus) CPS to produce the 'body' (child). IF the child has been adopted, then you can attack the adoption on the grounds of notice.

HOWEVER, it's time to get an attorney involved because overturning an adoption (if this is what happened) is time barred and the clock is ticking. At the very least, your son (since you have no legal standing) must know where his child is.

Edited: Posted the same time as the poster.
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Old 07-07-2004, 09:30 AM
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This sort of thing is exactly the reason we went half way across the world to adopt our daughter. She was in their "system (orphanage)" for two years before we came and adopted her, then we arranged and paid for all the therapies she needed, all the surgeries she needed, heavens knows how much more severly delayed she would have been had we not gotten her out when we did. Two years was enough damage. The courts severed all parental rights and freed her to be adopted. And, now that she has been our daughter for almost 5 years, one would have to kill me (or take every last cent I now have and would ever have fighting in court) to take her away.

If I hear one more person state "Why would you adopt from X when there are so many kids here in the US that need homes.....?". THIS is why so many of us adopt across the globe, and are terrified at the idea of a domestic adoption - so our forever family stays our forever family.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:45 AM
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Well things with CPS aren't going too well. Not only have we contacted a top notch attorney but our state rep. who is going to try to see what he can do. He in turn will let us or the attorney know what he finds out.

We already agreed if worse comes to worse will mortgage our home and everything else if need be to get our girl. I do believe CPS are our worst terrorist. They claim to protect children Then why do they return the abused ones back over to their parents to have them killed. Then when they know there are biological parents, grand parents etc. who truly love and cherish their children, they do their damnest to keep us separated.

Sorry for venting but we're about at our wits end with worry. Hopefully she is safe some where and not being molested or abused. Seems here lately in Tx. lots of that is going on
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Old 07-29-2004, 08:06 PM
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Thumbs up

Decided we've had our fill of trying to get anything out of Harris County in Houston Tx Thanks to the invention of computers was able to do a search and found out who and where the head honchos were of CPS. I sent them an email and in less than 20 minutes received a response

They are holding a full investigation which was started within an hour or two and guess there's going to be some heads rolling The social worker may not only lose his/her job but charges will be filed for perjury.

The lady was extremely nice and think she knows that what transpired was definately illegal. Once things are settled not only do we plan on suing CPS but will contact every news station and the newspapers. It's a shame that they are allowed to get away with things like this.
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Old 07-31-2004, 12:14 PM
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To JanWeb


I am so glad you have been able to reach the right people. Too many people
at CPS won't listen or don't care. In your case you were able to make enough
racket for someone to listen. Please let us know what comes of your case.
Bless you and your grandchild.
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:42 PM
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Watch them try to settle with you/your son but with a gag order attached so you won't be able to go to the media....IF you settle. Personally, I wouldn't. You do know that they get Federal $$ for each adoption right?
Here is more CPS in the news:
[url]http://reliableanswers.com/cps/news.asp[/url]
Good luck!
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