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12-20-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiogal YOU have a responsibility to let child support know when the child is emancipated under the law. If you do not and your ex makes a stink about it, you could be in trouble. You have duties as the obligee to also inform CSEA of changes that affect child support. And the child reaching 18 and being out of high school is most likely one of those changes. | I thought it was the NCP's responsibility to file for a termination of support??? | 
12-20-2007, 10:24 AM
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| | | Exactly. I have tried to be as fair as i can be without saying, "hey, don't pay me at all". I'm heading to the court now to pick up a packet to file to have our oldest emancipated as he is done with school and working full time so i will do whats right on my end. I asked about the alimony and was told that will continue as my remarriage doesn't affect that due to our divorce decree. I found out today that he told child support here in NJ that he ios working in SC so now they have to get the ball rolling on garnishment but he wants a reduction. I expect he will get that since i'm sure he is making what he was down there versus when he was a state employee here for 19 yrs. My goal is not to see him hang but just to get some weekly payments of some kind to help me support the 2 younger kids. I bust my butt daily working a full time and a part time job to meet the high costs of living here in NJ while he makes a joke of it all. i found out now the only reason he is running scared now is he got all the details of enforcement actions that are being placed on him but until then he had no care that he hasn't paid a dime for anything in almost a year. I'm never turned to welfare or anything else. I dusted myself off and found decent work that makes the bills and worked with my kids, we all went to family counseling, etc. I never once sat around feeling bad for myself, I quickly made a plan and put it into action. I do believe he now needs to be held accountable for his. I'm not saying the courts were completely fair with him but i do believe had he appeared in court and done things as ordered he wouldn't be in the spot he is in now. He made his bed, now he has to lay in it. | 
12-20-2007, 10:26 AM
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| | | Fairisfair,
I contact CS today and was told either parent can do so but the support won't be reduced until he appears in court. I will do whats right and file but its kinda slim to none that he will ever resurface to file for a reduction, etc. I'm not even sure if it will affect his payments or not as the CS was already reduced to give me alimony. | 
12-20-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fairisfair apparently you are reading a whole different story than the rest of us. |
It's all about interpretation.
YES the man should pay CS and the FULL CS required by statute.
NO the man should not be paying alimony to a married woman who doesn't need it! That is what is "complete and total" BS!
My point is that this OP is smart enough to understand this. The rest of you and the women elected legislature and judiciary are NOT!! | 
12-20-2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bali Hai It's all about interpretation.
YES the man should pay CS and the FULL CS required by statute.
NO the man should not be paying alimony to a married woman who doesn't need it! That is what is "complete and total" BS!
My point is that this OP is smart enough to understand this. The rest of you and the women elected legislature and judiciary are NOT!! | No one here has said that they do not agree with the poster stopping alimony. Our questions were regarding the amount of arrears, whether it was CS or allthemoney, I mean alimony; and whether she intended to forgive it.
I personally believe that alimony should be an extremely rare exception, not the norm and you know well, that I have made no secret of that.
Not everyone here is out to steal your Christmas cookies Bali****************************.. | 
12-20-2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BONILLAK Fairisfair,
I contact CS today and was told either parent can do so but the support won't be reduced until he appears in court. I will do whats right and file but its kinda slim to none that he will ever resurface to file for a reduction, etc. I'm not even sure if it will affect his payments or not as the CS was already reduced to give me alimony. | Good for you!! What he does, or does not do, well that is on him. | 
12-20-2007, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fairisfair No one here has said that they do not agree with the poster stopping alimony. Our questions were regarding the amount of arrears, whether it was CS or allthemoney, I mean alimony; and whether she intended to forgive it.
I personally believe that alimony should be an extremely rare exception, not the norm and you know well, that I have made no secret of that.
Not everyone here is out to steal your Christmas cookies Bali****************************.. | You can have some of my cookies fair. I'll share.
It's when someone says that I owe or orders me to give some of MY cookies is when I become cranky.  | 
12-20-2007, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fairisfair Our questions were regarding the amount of arrears, whether it was CS or allthemoney, I mean alimony; | He, he. I needed that chuckle Fairest of them all!
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12-20-2007, 12:24 PM
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| | | I just got back from getting court papers. I was at intake and the judges chambers with his law clerk. they gave me a 4 d application to file again just to be sure evrything is in place for all possible enforcement actions. i asked for a petition form for emancipation and was denied that because the court stated he is the payer and needs to file on his on if he so wishes as its his responsibility not mine. I discussed the ceasing of alimony and once again was told he needs to petition the court and have us both appear for a review of incomes and situations, etc. He is refusing to do anything court wise so they suggested just letting it be until he is ready to come to court also because i would be wasting filing fees and time just to have him fail to appear once again. I got everyones names i spoke with and took complete notes. Its in his lap now to appeal stuff and have us go to court. There isn't much leg work for me to do for him especially because he is so far behind and has made no effort at all. | 
12-20-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BONILLAK I just got back from getting court papers. I was at intake and the judges chambers with his law clerk. they gave me a 4 d application to file again just to be sure evrything is in place for all possible enforcement actions. i asked for a petition form for emancipation and was denied that because the court stated he is the payer and needs to file on his on if he so wishes as its his responsibility not mine. I discussed the ceasing of alimony and once again was told he needs to petition the court and have us both appear for a review of incomes and situations, etc. He is refusing to do anything court wise so they suggested just letting it be until he is ready to come to court also because i would be wasting filing fees and time just to have him fail to appear once again. I got everyones names i spoke with and took complete notes. Its in his lap now to appeal stuff and have us go to court. There isn't much leg work for me to do for him especially because he is so far behind and has made no effort at all. | You Go Bonillak!! And good for you, being fair about this. You make CP moms proud!!! | 
12-20-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BONILLAK I just got back from getting court papers. I was at intake and the judges chambers with his law clerk. they gave me a 4 d application to file again just to be sure evrything is in place for all possible enforcement actions. Well isn't that nice of the judge and clerk to guide you through this process! I wonder if they would do the same for the man!!
i asked for a petition form for emancipation and was denied that because the court stated he is the payer and needs to file on his on if he so wishes as its his responsibility not mine. As always the court is looking out for the woman!!
I discussed the ceasing of alimony and once again was told he needs to petition the court and have us both appear for a review of incomes and situations, etc. He is refusing to do anything court wise so they suggested just letting it be until he is ready to come to court also because i would be wasting filing fees and time just to have him fail to appear once again. Of course they did, as the arrearages continue to pile up in YOUR favor!!
I got everyones names i spoke with and took complete notes. Its in his lap now to appeal stuff and have us go to court. There isn't much leg work for me to do for him especially because he is so far behind and has made no effort at all. | Since when do judges and law clerks act a legal counsel??? | 
12-20-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bali Hai Since when do judges and law clerks act a legal counsel??? | Generally speaking if you ask for a form, they will give it to you, or will tell you that it does not exist.
I agree, I am surprised at the rest of what she is saying they told her. but whatever, it IS her story.
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12-20-2007, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fairisfair Generally speaking if you ask for a form, they will give it to you, or will tell you that it does not exist.
I agree, I am surprised at the rest of what she is saying they told her. but whatever, it IS her story.
Now get in the kitchen and make me cookies.   | Is that an order?? | 
12-20-2007, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bali Hai Is that an order?? | Not at all darling, I'll meet you in there.  | 
12-20-2007, 01:34 PM
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| | | I'm not really sure that telling me that it isn't my job to file such papers as legal counsel. | |
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