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scrubbyhatter
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Hey there, y'all.
I smell insane amounts of wrongdoings here, and we're at a state wherin we don't know how to handle this legally. Please, if anyone spots something we could use, please let me know.
Worlds of Fun... Kansas City, Missouri.
To make a long story short, there was a group of about
200-300 fans of a certain music group that gathered at the park last Saturday... We spent our big money (insane ticket prices) at the front gate... and the second we stepped two feet towards the park, we were kicked out.
We weren't given reasons. And they will never give us one. The reason is because we were different... scrubs... and that's obvious. The main security guy took my hype man and promotions dude for our music company, Andy, and told him to leave and take his "Smut" with him. (The rest of us.)
So they gathered up about 20 security guards and made examples out of us. The rest of my group of about 6 people were
pushed back far into the parking lot, but I stayed far behind to talk to this dude that kicked us out. He had about 10 guards himself. (Mind you, guards, not cops.)
I was calm, complete like I always am. All I needed was an answer or a refund. He said "We don't give refunds and I don't have to answer s***." And kept walking up to me in my face, telling me to leave. Then he told me he'd put me in jail if I
didn't. So I said "All I'm asking for is a reason. I think we're all entitled to that." So he said "Look, I don't feel like fighting an unarmed man today, get out or I'll arrest you." So I said "Man, I know my rights. I didn't do anything wrong, and I'm not even raising my voice to you, all I'm doing is asking a question."
"You may have rights in Wichita, but it don't mean **** here in Kansas City."
...
"Cuff him, arrest him for trespassing or something."
A park bike security guard swung me around and did it. A security guard, not even attempting to give me miranda or any other rights of any kind.
They sat me in a room, cuffed, asked me all sorts of questions about just about everything while my crew got it even worse.
They were pushing and cramming Tabitha and Shai (Some
of our girl crewmembers) into their cars, cussing at them, treating them like animals. They even whipped out mace. All they wanted to do was get me so they could leave. They were my ride and all. (It is 4 hours back to the cirty we were from)
They started bragging about me, their prime example. "We already got one of your friends, we arrested his a**."
They started calling around trying to get a way to find what jail I was in and how to get me.
Back in the little guard hut I listened to the cbs and how retarded they all were, boasting and everything about kicking us out, calling us names, etc. Then they said to eject anyone wearing the band shirts we had on or anything resembling them, anything related, or anyone with paint on their faces, masks, etc. They
actually had the nerve, we found out later that they did it too, and all without reason or refund. That's 250 + people left without their money and without a reason that they had to go. All were forced out of the park, often physically.
That's terrible. It became obvious that they waited for us to cross the line to get our money and THEN kick us out. That's a lot of money to some scrubs. Even at the biggest discout, that's well over 5 thousand dollars combined.
So the REAL police came, picked me up and took me to jail. WOF threw trespassing charges on me and I barely had enough money to make bail.
The crew came and picked me up and told me what they went through.
So all the misfollowings of law and retardedness, and with about 30-40 witnesses at LEAST that we all know how to get ahold of... hell yeah we're going to the media with this, and we all think it's something that needs to be noticed.
We even got a few reports each of incidents including kicking a group of us about 60 strong out, while the main securty guy I told you about pushed one person down for even asking why they were being chased off. Then he said it was for cussing. Then he admitted it wasn't cussing, he just associated him with people who cuss.
And another incident where they placed a few yound kids in our groups (10-11) into a guard hut for four hours until the park closed WITHOUT trying to contact their parents, who were worried to death... and when the park closed, they took them out by the highway and said that was their choice... the highway or Juvenile hall.
We still had a great time in KC though.... We met lots of new people and crews, hung around at some big places and basically bonded even tighter.
My question is what are the rights of simple, unarmed, rent-a-bicycle security... can they just arrest me on point like that?
Can they arrest me for trespass when I paid and didn't even set foot in the park, and pressed the charges on me when they cuffed me in the parking lot on the way out?
Could they use physical force like that to people that weren't exhibiting force at them in the first place?
Someone please help!
Eli Simpson
MadHatter of Scrub Club Records
I smell insane amounts of wrongdoings here, and we're at a state wherin we don't know how to handle this legally. Please, if anyone spots something we could use, please let me know.
Worlds of Fun... Kansas City, Missouri.
To make a long story short, there was a group of about
200-300 fans of a certain music group that gathered at the park last Saturday... We spent our big money (insane ticket prices) at the front gate... and the second we stepped two feet towards the park, we were kicked out.
We weren't given reasons. And they will never give us one. The reason is because we were different... scrubs... and that's obvious. The main security guy took my hype man and promotions dude for our music company, Andy, and told him to leave and take his "Smut" with him. (The rest of us.)
So they gathered up about 20 security guards and made examples out of us. The rest of my group of about 6 people were
pushed back far into the parking lot, but I stayed far behind to talk to this dude that kicked us out. He had about 10 guards himself. (Mind you, guards, not cops.)
I was calm, complete like I always am. All I needed was an answer or a refund. He said "We don't give refunds and I don't have to answer s***." And kept walking up to me in my face, telling me to leave. Then he told me he'd put me in jail if I
didn't. So I said "All I'm asking for is a reason. I think we're all entitled to that." So he said "Look, I don't feel like fighting an unarmed man today, get out or I'll arrest you." So I said "Man, I know my rights. I didn't do anything wrong, and I'm not even raising my voice to you, all I'm doing is asking a question."
"You may have rights in Wichita, but it don't mean **** here in Kansas City."
...
"Cuff him, arrest him for trespassing or something."
A park bike security guard swung me around and did it. A security guard, not even attempting to give me miranda or any other rights of any kind.
They sat me in a room, cuffed, asked me all sorts of questions about just about everything while my crew got it even worse.
They were pushing and cramming Tabitha and Shai (Some
of our girl crewmembers) into their cars, cussing at them, treating them like animals. They even whipped out mace. All they wanted to do was get me so they could leave. They were my ride and all. (It is 4 hours back to the cirty we were from)
They started bragging about me, their prime example. "We already got one of your friends, we arrested his a**."
They started calling around trying to get a way to find what jail I was in and how to get me.
Back in the little guard hut I listened to the cbs and how retarded they all were, boasting and everything about kicking us out, calling us names, etc. Then they said to eject anyone wearing the band shirts we had on or anything resembling them, anything related, or anyone with paint on their faces, masks, etc. They
actually had the nerve, we found out later that they did it too, and all without reason or refund. That's 250 + people left without their money and without a reason that they had to go. All were forced out of the park, often physically.
That's terrible. It became obvious that they waited for us to cross the line to get our money and THEN kick us out. That's a lot of money to some scrubs. Even at the biggest discout, that's well over 5 thousand dollars combined.
So the REAL police came, picked me up and took me to jail. WOF threw trespassing charges on me and I barely had enough money to make bail.
The crew came and picked me up and told me what they went through.
So all the misfollowings of law and retardedness, and with about 30-40 witnesses at LEAST that we all know how to get ahold of... hell yeah we're going to the media with this, and we all think it's something that needs to be noticed.
We even got a few reports each of incidents including kicking a group of us about 60 strong out, while the main securty guy I told you about pushed one person down for even asking why they were being chased off. Then he said it was for cussing. Then he admitted it wasn't cussing, he just associated him with people who cuss.
And another incident where they placed a few yound kids in our groups (10-11) into a guard hut for four hours until the park closed WITHOUT trying to contact their parents, who were worried to death... and when the park closed, they took them out by the highway and said that was their choice... the highway or Juvenile hall.
We still had a great time in KC though.... We met lots of new people and crews, hung around at some big places and basically bonded even tighter.
My question is what are the rights of simple, unarmed, rent-a-bicycle security... can they just arrest me on point like that?
Can they arrest me for trespass when I paid and didn't even set foot in the park, and pressed the charges on me when they cuffed me in the parking lot on the way out?
Could they use physical force like that to people that weren't exhibiting force at them in the first place?
Someone please help!
Eli Simpson
MadHatter of Scrub Club Records
The crew thanks you.