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farva

Junior Member
Minnesota.

I was working at a retail store and over the course of 3 months stole 2 ipods, a camera and some dvds, valuing $684.66. since it was over 500, i am being charged with felony theft. at work i was confronted by assets protection and told that they knew i was involved with the missing products. (stupidly) i cooperated and gave a written confession. they called the cops and an officer came and took the paper from them and that was it, i wasnt booked or anything. i had my first hearing today, and i am going to have an obnibus hearing. is my confession admissable, since i was never read my rights or offered a lawer? this is my first offence, and i just want to move on, hopefully plea down to a lesser charge so i dont have a felony on my record. what is likely to happen?
 


seniorjudge

Senior Member
farva said:
Minnesota.

I was working at a retail store and over the course of 3 months stole 2 ipods, a camera and some dvds, valuing $684.66. since it was over 500, i am being charged with felony theft. at work i was confronted by assets protection and told that they knew i was involved with the missing products. (stupidly) i cooperated and gave a written confession. they called the cops and an officer came and took the paper from them and that was it, i wasnt booked or anything. i had my first hearing today, and i am going to have an obnibus hearing. is my confession admissable, since i was never read my rights or offered a lawer? this is my first offence, and i just want to move on, hopefully plea down to a lesser charge so i dont have a felony on my record. what is likely to happen?
Q: is my confession admissable, since i was never read my rights or offered a lawer?

A: It is if you gave it voluntarily after waiving your rights.



Standard answer

Here are some hints on appearing in court:

Dress professionally in clean clothes.

Do not wear message shirts.

Don't chew gum, smoke, or eat. (Smokers...pot or tobacco...literally stink. Remember that before you head for court.)

Bathe and wash your hair.

Do not bring small children or your friends.

Go to court beforehand some day before you actually have to go to watch how things go.

Speak politely and deferentially. If you argue or dispute something, do it professionally and without emotion.

Ask the court clerk who you talk to about a diversion (meaning you want to plead to a different, lesser charge), if applicable in your situation. Ask about traffic school and that the ticket not go on your record, if applicable. Ask also about getting a hardship driving permit, if applicable.

From marbol:

“Judge...

You forgot the one thing that I've seen that seems to frizz up most judges these days:

If you have a cell phone, make DAMN SURE that it doesn't make ANY noise in the courtroom. This means when you are talking to the judge AND when you are simply sitting in the court room.

If you have a ‘vibrate’ position on your cell phone, MAKE sure the judge DOESN'T EVEN HEAR it VIBRATE!

Turn it off or put it in silent mode where it flashes a LED if it rings. AND DON'T even DREAM about answering it if it rings.”

(Better yet, don’t carry your cell phone into the courtroom.)


Here are five stories that criminal court judges hear the most (and I suggest you do not use them or variations of them):

1. I’ve been saved! (This is not religion specific; folks from all kinds of religious backgrounds use this one.)

2. My girlfriend/mother/sister/daughter is pregnant/sick/dying/dead/crippled and needs my help.

3. I’ve got a job in [name a state five hundred miles away].

4. This is the first time I ever did this.

5. You’ve got the wrong guy. (A variation of this one is the phantom defendant story: “It wasn’t me driving, it was a hitchhiker I picked up. He wrecked the car, drug me behind the wheel then took off.” Or, another variation: “I was forced into it by a bad guy!”)

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?p=854687#post854687

Public defender’s advice

http://newyork.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/70300494.html


Other people may give you other advice; stand by.
 

farva

Junior Member
clarification

minnesota

so my confession, if given to a store employee is considered waiving my rights? i was not asked if i wanted a lawyer, or told that my statement would be used against me by anyone, the officer or the employee. the confession sheet did not come from the police officer, just the employee. i guess i thought there was a difference but perhaps not.
 
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seniorjudge

Senior Member
farva said:
minnesota

so my confession, if given to a store employee is considered waiving my rights? i was not asked if i wanted a lawyer, or told that my statement would be used against me by anyone, the officer or the employee. the confession sheet did not come from the police officer, just the employee. i guess i thought there was a difference but perhaps not.
I haven't seen the documents so I cannot answer your questions.
 

mb94

Member
The police as a arm of the government have to give you miranda warnings and all that stuff you've seen on Law and Order. The store security is not an arm of the government and does not have to do that.
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
Q: so is the store given confession admissable in court?

A: Yes, because: "i cooperated and gave a written confession...."
 

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