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Old 01-14-2008, 06:55 PM
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International Extradition Cost?


What is the name of your state? Texas

How much roughly does it cost to extradite from the international countries to the US? I recall two high profile cases from the UK, the Enron 3 and the leader of the DOD warez site from Australia. Those were pretty exceptional cases but does this set the standard?

Do the US extradite over just any case of international crime, or is it restricted to murder, fraud etc?
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:38 PM
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What is the name of your state? Texas

How much roughly does it cost to extradite from the international countries to the US? I recall two high profile cases from the UK, the Enron 3 and the leader of the DOD warez site from Australia. Those were pretty exceptional cases but does this set the standard?

Do the US extradite over just any case of international crime, or is it restricted to murder, fraud etc?
I doubt that anyone on this forum has the answers to what the feds do about this.
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:49 AM
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Thanks, i realise that. My point was more are the feds interested in only huge high profile cases, or any felony to extradite over?
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:13 AM
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what country, what charge?


yes, the feds could be very intrested, depending on the country and the political climate of that country at the time. High profile does not nessacarly matter. The feds have there hands full right now. Have you been reading the news paper. The fbi is joining with like five different countries, collecting a database of fingerprints, iris scans,dna. other countries will have access to the criminal records of American citizens. Of course the fbi has assured us that they will make sure everything is secure, and that it will of course be used responsibly by people in foreign countries. That NONE of what is left of our rights will be voilated. That it will only be used against people that are real bad. This is what you call global police.
You will soon see a split happening in the fbi, one side terror, the other side criminals. Not sure where the department of homeland security will fit in. So in answer to your original question, yes, and it would be very very expensive, i hear the weather in Venezuela is nice this time of year...
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:32 AM
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The charge is potential copyright infringement. I posted elsewhere in the forum, i had some photographs taken and used (non commercially) on a myspace profile without permission, which have now been removed - im just aggrieved that it happened in the first place so didnt know whether to report it or not under the criminal provisions.

Its only possible the retail value is just over the required $2500 for a felony given i dont know the exact amount of infringement.

Thats why i asked if, for instance the defendant was overseas, would this be worth the feds time, or would they simply ignore it/pass it to the relevent overseas jurisdiction?

That amount of crime wouldnt warrent extradition would it? They tend to use that for the big infringers?

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Old 01-15-2008, 12:36 PM
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I would be highly surprised if they expend any effort on a criminal prosecution even if the guy is standing in front of the federal building.

The infringment has stopped. A criminal prosecution does nothing for you but some peverse sense of vengence. If you want to file a civil suit for damages, you can be as virgorous as you like.
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:40 PM
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I read the US govt. was hot on infringement thesedays, so assumed it would qualify. I realise it sounds like revenge, although maybe id get the same response from the feds. So your saying its small fry to them?
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:15 PM
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few points


This is in fact a serious crime, and it will be treated as such. Its not like you walk into the fbi building and there is a help desk. You are going to walk in, they are going to tell you stop talking any farther, you will sit in the waiting room for awhile. Then a special agent is going to come out and begin the interview. At which point you are going to wonder exactly who they are after. The interview will go on and on, with no end in site. After which they are going to ask you if you want to do such and such, submit complait to this person or that? If they have not uncovered something that you have done, they will basically give you the run around. My personal advice. Don t talk to the FBI unless it is very very serious, like a matter of life and death, involves child porn,or over domistic envirmental terrorism. And you can name names.
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Old 01-15-2008, 04:10 PM
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Yes. You think the RIAA is getting criminal indictments on people scamming music?
Willful large scale criminal enterprise yes, small quantity stuff by random individuals...no.

You got the DMCA takedown.
If you want to hurt the guy, suck it up and file a civil suit (not that chasing down people overseas is going to be particularly easy).
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:36 AM
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The charge is potential copyright infringement. I posted elsewhere in the forum, i had some photographs taken and used (non commercially) on a myspace profile without permission, which have now been removed - im just aggrieved that it happened in the first place so didnt know whether to report it or not under the criminal provisions.

Its only possible the retail value is just over the required $2500 for a felony given i dont know the exact amount of infringement.

Thats why i asked if, for instance the defendant was overseas, would this be worth the feds time, or would they simply ignore it/pass it to the relevent overseas jurisdiction?

That amount of crime wouldnt warrent extradition would it? They tend to use that for the big infringers?

There is not going to be any action in this case, you made the pictures public when you posted them on your profile. In a case where the pictures were used non-comercially, you will have trouble proving any type of damages in a very expensive civil case. It would be prudent to weigh the costs of a civil suit before you pursue one. You may think you are important enough for the FBI to extradite and further prosecute some unknown person thousands of miles away for using some pictures from your myspace profile. I would like assure you that you are not that important.

You may want to review the terms of use for Myspace and what you agreed to when you created a profile before you make a real fool of yourself screaming for international justice.

As a rule in this forum, "Bad grammar and spelling equals bad advice."

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