restitution/probation violation trouble! EEK!

[Poor and Scared]

undefinedWhat is the name of your state?CA Please, please, please....info needed!!!

I am 40 and three years ago committed my first crime. My husband and I were astranged, he "of course" (MEN!) got a girlfriend to ease the pain. After a few months, we began to reconcile, the girlfriend refused to go away. Several months of harrassment and my husband heading back to her arms whenever I wasn't pleasant to be around. Anyhow....one night after arguing with my husband over the phone, he headed to her house and I made the fateful move to drive by to see if he was there. Drama incured and bawling my eyes out I chose to "walk away"! But..once I got into my car and looked in the rearview mirror, 37 years of good judgement were overtaken with reverse, forward, reverse, forward!

I pled guilty to vandalism, which the judge reduced to a misdemener and granted mercy on me ordering a suspended sentence, probation of 36 mo. and restitution of $3,200. for the damage to the car (payable to the dealership because the car was to be reposessed).

I lost my job for "abandoning" my positon and a greivance attempt was denied due to my employers fear I was going to be jailed. At the probation hearing, my public defender didn't bring up my financial situation and even though the probation report detailed my income of only $740. mo (welfare) and living expenses for myself and three children was well over $800, the court ordered me to pay $100 mo.

I had no chose but to not make payments as I couldn't afford toilet paper or diapers for two of my kids.

I was pulled over and arrested, sited out and have a hearing in Nov. for probation violation. What can I expect? My financial situation has not impoved but my husband has agreed to take out his retirement (is necessary) to pay the debt, if I jail time is a possibility.

Help, advise, guideance, support, whatever!!!!

[Akuma]

I'm sorry thats happened. Technically you could get in quite the amount of trouble, but who knows.. maybe you can throw on the water works and let the judge know about your financial problems ( throw in that toilet paper and diper stuff and maybe he'll pitty you and go easy on your charges.

[Poor and Scared]

thanks for the reply, anyone else?

[Shay-Pari'e]

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

undefinedWhat is the name of your state?CA Please, please, please....info needed!!!

I am 40 and three years ago committed my first crime. My husband and I were astranged, he "of course" (MEN!) got a girlfriend to ease the pain. After a few months, we began to reconcile, the girlfriend refused to go away. Several months of harrassment and my husband heading back to her arms whenever I wasn't pleasant to be around. Anyhow....one night after arguing with my husband over the phone, he headed to her house and I made the fateful move to drive by to see if he was there. Drama incured and bawling my eyes out I chose to "walk away"! But..once I got into my car and looked in the rearview mirror, 37 years of good judgement were overtaken with reverse, forward, reverse, forward!

I pled guilty to vandalism, which the judge reduced to a misdemener and granted mercy on me ordering a suspended sentence, probation of 36 mo. and restitution of $3,200. for the damage to the car (payable to the dealership because the car was to be reposessed). You really got a break from the judge here.


I lost my job for "abandoning" my positon and a greivance attempt was denied due to my employers fear I was going to be jailed. At the probation hearing, my public defender didn't bring up my financial situation and even though the probation report detailed my income of only $740. mo (welfare) and living expenses for myself and three children was well over $800, the court ordered me to pay $100 mo. This is what you need to explain. You are still married to him,(Why?, none of my business), But again, you got off rather easy, and I am confused why you are on Welfare if you are still married.



I had no chose but to not make payments as I couldn't afford toilet paper or diapers for two of my kids.

I was pulled over and arrested, sited out and have a hearing in Nov. for probation violation. What can I expect? My financial situation has not impoved but my husband has agreed to take out his retirement (is necessary) to pay the debt, if I jail time is a possibility. Again, why are you on welfare? Why did he not insure this debt be paid before you faced violation?


Help, advise, guideance, support, whatever!!!!

You just do not give enough details for anyone, to really answer. Well, except for Akuma who is a 17 yr old stoner.

[Poor and Scared]

Let's see....details I left out?

The judge was good to me because as she stated at sentencing, I am 40 and have had no other criminal experiences. She also took into count that the girlfriend was harrassing me for several months saying that I was a victim of sorts being harrassed by her and emotionally by my husband.

I am still with my husband because I believe in forgiveness, 'til death do us part and that "God brought us together..so let no man tear assunder." And because my kids and I love this man, flaws and all! Unconditional love!

I'm still on welfare because my husband was laid off during our seperation and has severe diabetes to boot. We are both full time students in college.

He did not secure the debt earlier because, first - I didn't ask and second - when you are as poor as we are, both unemployed, and husband is in poor health... pulling out the only future security to your name is a last ditch effort option.

[Shay-Pari'e]

So you are on welfare, neither of you work, you have two kids in diapers,(In your 40's and on welfare), your husband left you many times to get his groove on, you went mental, you were ordered restitution and put on probation, you broke probation, you are still with the lovely guy (Who apparently is not even on disability), and you can't pay 100.00 a month for the damage you caused.

I honestly do not have legal advice for you. I might suggest a shrink for you both if you honestly have 2 young children in diapers.

Might I suggest actually work? I say this because I am honestly tired of footing the bill for rejects as yourself and your hubby.

I also do not think for a second you are both full time students in college, Welfare doesn't cover that.

[Akuma]

Lol being judged is just wonderful. It's not like you can't expect it in life. Anyway, I'm pretty sure she was looking for some quidence and between the both of us I think you'd have to agree that I have made the closest thing to it (even though it's not to technical).

"Every morning I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work."

Sounds like you've got yourself some issues though.Not happy with who you are? Maybe picked on when you were in high school? Gotta come to law forums where you can make yourself feel superior to others? I quess it's better than paying for a shrink. If age is a factor here, its sad that a 17 year old is more mature that you. Owned.

[Poor and Scared]

MEAN>>>MEAN>>>MEAN

Full time students and work parttime at minimum wage in the workstudy program to pay for school, books, babysitter, transportation.

I was making $9.00 hr when I was working, I paid no taxes because we have 5 kids together. I will be a RN in two years making over $65,000 year plus I'm sure a whole lot of taxes. You'll get paid back for flipping my bill and as a bonus, we have already paid in to your social security 20 years each and then more when we finish school. I'll be flipping your bill for old age.

Good luck in life with such a negative outlook, I'll pray for you to receive joy in life!

Sincerely

[Poor and Scared]

Thank you for your time and input. You understand the spirit of this website and the troubles and worries of others!

[Shay-Pari'e]

[quote=Akuma]Lol being judged is just wonderful. It's not like you can't expect it in life. I'm pretty sure she was looking for some quidence and between the both of us I think you'd have to agree that I have made the closest thing to it (even though it's not to technical). Actually, I do agree. Your a 17 yr. old doper, so who better to console her?


Sounds like you've got yourself some issues though. No, not really

Not happy with who you are? Maybe picked on when you were in high school? I love who I am, I love my family and I love that we worked our butt's off to get where we are, a income figure that would blow your childish mind out of your doped up skin.


Gotta come to law forums where you can make yourself feel superior to others? I don't feel superior to anyone. I don't log on to this site often, however, it appears once posting your pathetic druggie story, you seem to live here.

I quess it's better than paying for a shrink. If age is a factor here, its sad that a 17 year old is more mature that you. Owned. It is...."THAN" you, and I have no problem with you "OWNING" the fact that you are a 17 yr. old doper with no life and no job. Own it proud ok?

[Shay-Pari'e]

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

MEAN>>>MEAN>>>MEAN

Full time students and work parttime at minimum wage in the workstudy program to pay for school, books, babysitter, transportation.

I was making $9.00 hr when I was working, I paid no taxes because we have 5 kids together. I will be a RN in two years making over $65,000 year plus I'm sure a whole lot of taxes. You'll get paid back for flipping my bill and as a bonus, we have already paid in to your social security 20 years each and then more when we finish school. I'll be flipping your bill for old age.

Good luck in life with such a negative outlook, I'll pray for you to receive joy in life!

Sincerely

You will not be flipping my bill, I am very much younger than you. Not only am I younger than you, I as many people feed those five kids of yours, as you and your hubby,(In their 40's), are cheating, going mental on others property, not paying your restitution, and are on welfare, both of you!

Please do not pray for my joy, (Trust me, no need), pray for your children living like they are.

[stealth2]

The problem is, there are times in life when you have to give up the dream to meet your obligations. The court cut you some slack. Well, a lot of slack. You chose (and yes, it was a choice) to not meet that obligation so that you could continue your schooling. Your better option would have been to put school on hold for a period of time, get a F/T job, have your husband file for disability, and get back on your feet - including paying your $100/mo. THEN look at going back to school.

But I don't know that the judge is going to have a great deal of sympathy for you this time around. Judges tend not to like their orders being ignored.

[Poor and Scared]

"It is harder for a rich person to get into heaven than it is for a camel to get through the eye of a needle" - God

"Money is the root of all evil"

"The important things in life are not things"

Good Luck with you! I may be poor but you, my friend are poor of spirit!

[Shay-Pari'e]

I was just thinking how Stealth tried to be nutral in her post, but you are not in reality.


"It is harder for a rich person to get into heaven than it is for a camel to get through the eye of a needle" - God How insane of a comment, not even worth replying too.


"Money is the root of all evil" ? No it is not, My family has a back bone lady, I paid to educate myself, and as much as I feel for the needy people on the streets of San Fran, and this country, I paid for my education, with no help from my parents. My dad died when I was young, and my mother showed five girls how to work and make it in this world. You are one messed up person if you think money is evil. I can cherish my kids and be a great mom and still be educated and provide things for them. My children are honor roll, I do not use a nanny, and I scrub our toilets. We get home work done, we focus on our family. How dare you state that because we can buy things that you cannot, that our money is evil? "

The important things in life are not things" What things? Hospital care? Insurance? Schooling? Bandaids? Braces? Both parents ? Education?


Good Luck with you! I may be poor but you, my friend are poor of spirit! I don't need your luck, you need a Life Jacket thrown to your kids.
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[stealth2]

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

"It is harder for a rich person to get into heaven than it is for a camel to get through the eye of a needle" - God

A: Whatever makes you think I'm (money) rich?

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

"Money is the root of all evil"

A: Ditto answer above.

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

"The important things in life are not things"

A: And what makes you think that I believe they are?

Originally Posted by Poor and Scared

Good Luck with you! I may be poor but you, my friend are poor of spirit!

A: Well, you're pretty judgemental yourself. The difference will be, I suppose, that you'll possibly be sitting in jail while I'm not. Go figure. (edit) And your comments about being money poor but rich in spirit, money being the root of all evil are really quite funny since YOU are the one who brought up earning 65k when you graduate.

Seriously - the terms of your probation weren't a suggestion. They were a court order. The judge knew of your circumstances, yet still ordered you to pay restitution in payments of $100/mo. I'd bet she was expecting you to take that seriously and do what was necessary to pay it. I wouldn't expect a great deal of sympathy this time around. Sorry.