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Old 04-28-2003, 03:09 AM
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Unsigned warrant


What is the name of your state? Ohio
does a warrent have to be signed when served? Or can it be a blank without judge signing it? at time of sizeure and arrest. but yet state the evidence to be taken? Att said copy is good enough without judge signing it as one was at his office? bull is what I say? Help us if you can? I thank you.

thank you for your help . i await your replys

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ps please site case ors number
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:19 PM
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A search warrant or arrest warrant to be valid, must be signed at the time it is served. Items which may be seized under a search warrant that is not signed are not admissable as evidence.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:23 PM
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I would go with what your lawyer says.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:34 PM
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Here is one from PA, chew on that for awhile. The legal reasoning is not state specific, the basis is the 4th amendment.
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Old 04-28-2003, 06:36 PM
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Oops, forgot the ref:

[url]http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/Superior/out/a28020_01.PDF[/url]
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Old 04-28-2003, 07:43 PM
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Do you know if the original was signed?
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Old 04-28-2003, 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Mike101
Do you know if the original was signed?

The one they gave him was unsigned! the one that came back with decovery was sign with the date of time of arrest. The deal is it could have been signed after booking. Now the question is did the judge get out of bed and did not take the pole dancers passed in to conideration as she one of those garden tools we use/ a hole. CI confindential In formant that is woking for them still selling butt and doing the drugs. Free pass. Moving from county to county and now state to state as she is all used up as a RAT which no one cares for. Not even the police. So we belive she got caught many times and let lose no longer use full to them. You know the try county's and state use of these low lifes. Looks like we might have to try ask as judge why he took low lifes word based on lies as he knows her as a CI. has told in pass. She wont take a lie detecor test but he has. Thank mike for your help. If you find any thing new please let me know so I can inform the man only three weeks to go.
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Old 04-28-2003, 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by nowpastdue
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A search warrant or arrest warrant to be valid, must be signed at the time it is served. Items which may be seized under a search warrant that is not signed are not admissable as evidence.
Do you know of a case or ORS that I might copy?

Thank you for your help.

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Old 04-28-2003, 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by nowpastdue
I am NOT an attorney.

Here is one from PA, chew on that for awhile. The legal reasoning is not state specific, the basis is the 4th amendment.
Have been it is like Old Deer jurkie last along time.

Thak you much. I belive our right are going out the door since 9/11 and the general public don't know or give a DaM! we put thes guys in there that pay there way out how about that Condit Congress Man what is up? We don't hear about him any more!
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Old 04-28-2003, 09:10 PM
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I would go with what your lawyer says.
He is double talking now and was all for it .. About unsigend warrant then said the one serverd was good.

I learned along, long time ago their are two peope you don;t lie to first is God through Christ the other is your Lawyer. The latter has a licenes to stell and keep there rest of the people igorant of the Laws so they can control us like the PD Public 'defenders PD
the are only go enough to make deals or you go to prison . PD get the work for the Police Department until they wise up and hang their own shingle or work for someone else . Not all mind you we need the Law but now with a free rain on things.

Thank you.
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Any response you receive from this forum is only as good as the information you provide. If you don't provide accurate information, don't rely on the post.

If this case is as you claim, let your friends attorney handle it. His/her attorney is the ONLY person who will be able to review ALL the facts..... and know what they are.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!

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Old 04-28-2003, 09:30 PM
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Any response you receive from this forum is only as good as the information you provide. If you don't provide accurate information, don't rely on the post.

If this case is as you claim, let your friends attorney handle it. His/her attorney is the ONLY person who will be able to review ALL the facts..... and now what they are.
So True but if they get the Gold and you get the shaft because of poor and misrepresation then remember make them give you all your leagal work as they go along. you may have to make a motion in front of the court to dismiss him and at least you will have most of the Legal work for the nest guy. Thanks I have a lot of things to continplate for I am no attorney. Why do they play the games God only know money talks and walks the other Oh well there is the cell for some times some things that they set uu but that si their Job Hero's don't youknow ask at any dounut shop.

Thank you for your imput I apprecate every word and answers I am getting and yours is one.

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Old 04-28-2003, 10:30 PM
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What did the police find when they searched your friend's residence?
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Old 04-29-2003, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by stephenk
What did the police find when they searched your friend's residence?

I don't beelive it matters the warrant they gave him was unsigned the big question was the police search legal? Controled substance 11. Do know if the warrant need to be signed when presented?

Or you just intrested in the case? Thank you for your reply.

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Old 04-29-2003, 08:42 AM
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Why is this still going on??
It is clear in reading this thread, that you are looking for a specific, factual response. And you simply will NOT get it here since that would require a view of ALL the facts, on both sides of this issue. You can only give YOUR version. And based solely on your version, the warrant is certainly suspect.

So, get an attorney (you're going to need one anyway!) and let your attorney do his/her work.... based on ALL the facts.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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