what happens in vegas....

[michelie0]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? california/ arrested in nevada

Well I was in a casino and my brother was being arrested for battery and obstruction they also pulled me and my friend with since my friend was involved. I had my camera on me so decided to film the whole thing because I thought we were being treated unfairly by the guards/police.
They didnt like the idea of my filming and told us to leave and if we came back we would be trespassing. We did not walk for more than 5 minutes ..not even to the street where we would actually "be off the property" when my friend started hyperventiallting and started running back bc she wanted a paramedic. I stayed on the other side of the street and was recording the whole time, I walked back about 20 feet to make sure they were going to call someone.
The guards walked across the street to arrest me for trespassing. I had my video cam in my purse the whole time and actually got one of the guards calling me a bitch.
1st question : is this really tresspassing if it was not even 5 minutes that they asked us to leave before they arrested me ( i didnt have time to get off the property) and I walked back towards the door about 20-30 feet to make sure my friend was okay and making sure they were going to call a medic because she was having respiratory problems
2nd question : Is there anything I can do about having this guard calling me a bitch ( getting her fired hopefully? )
please help with some advice
thanks

[poncho]

Did you actually get arrested? Or did you get a Trespass Warning Card from casino security? I'll assume the security guards gave you the card.

3. Every crime punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000, or by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than 6 months, is a misdemeanor.

Nevada law makes it a misdemeanor for a person to willfully enter or remain on another persons land after having been warned by the owner or occupant not to trespass. Vegas PD can arrest if you returned on the property. Right or wrong. If I'm wrong and they did have you arrested. You have a little more too worry about then getting them fired!

[ERAUPIKE]

Originally Posted by michelie0

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? california/ arrested in nevada

Well I was in a casino and my brother was being arrested for battery and obstruction they also pulled me and my friend with since my friend was involved. I had my camera on me so decided to film the whole thing because I thought we were being treated unfairly by the guards/police.
They didnt like the idea of my filming and told us to leave and if we came back we would be trespassing. We did not walk for more than 5 minutes ..not even to the street where we would actually "be off the property" when my friend started hyperventiallting and started running back bc she wanted a paramedic. I stayed on the other side of the street and was recording the whole time, I walked back about 20 feet to make sure they were going to call someone.
The guards walked across the street to arrest me for trespassing. I had my video cam in my purse the whole time and actually got one of the guards calling me a bitch.
1st question : is this really tresspassing if it was not even 5 minutes that they asked us to leave before they arrested me ( i didnt have time to get off the property) and I walked back towards the door about 20-30 feet to make sure my friend was okay and making sure they were going to call a medic because she was having respiratory problems
2nd question : Is there anything I can do about having this guard calling me a bitch ( getting her fired hopefully? )
please help with some advice
thanks

Yes, you were trespassing. Once you are asked to leave you must go, even if your friend is hyperventilating. Everyone knows that filming inside a casino is a no-no and being with someone who is causing a disturbance is never helpful either. As far as the guard comments, I guess you should drop the attitude next time. The amazing thing about the freedom of speech is that everyone gets the right to exercise it. That guard was expressing a very specific opinion about what she thought about you. You have no control or really any action you can take against the casino. Are you going to tell them that you will never go there again? I think that is what they want. Are you going to threaten to tell all your friends not to go to that casino? I wouldn't want your trespassing, hyperventilating, obstructing, and combative friends in my casino in the first place. Why would this casino fire an employee that was clearly just doing their job. I willing to bet you were at least slightly intoxicated when this incident took place as well. Don't forget that while your camera was in your purse there were at least three casino cameras taping every move you made. You may want to rethink your position here.

[outonbail]

Originally Posted by michelie0

1st question : is this really tresspassing if it was not even 5 minutes that they asked us to leave before they arrested me ( i didnt have time to get off the property) and I walked back towards the door about 20-30 feet to make sure my friend was okay and making sure they were going to call a medic because she was having respiratory problems

If you are told to leave, that is what you must do, in the most expedient, direct manner possible. When you are walking back and in the direction of the casino you were not welcome at, you were trespassing. It appears to me that you, or at least most of the people in your party, were making a scene, in fact a couple of them, including the hyperventilating/concerned friend act. Additionally, having spent a considerable amount of time both working and playing in Las Vegas, I can think of no casino where it would take five or more minutes to remove yourself from their property, even if you were walking slow. However, you turned around and walked back. They don't play with you in those casinos. They give you one warning, if your lucky, then it's off to jail you go.

2nd question : Is there anything I can do about having this guard calling me a bitch ( getting her fired hopefully? )
please help with some advice
thanks

The guard works for the casino, so you can call the casino and inform them that you wish to file a complaint against one of their employees for the way you were treated and ask if there is some sort of recognized complaint form they can provide, or, you can simply write a complaint letter and mail it to them. (I suggest you do this over the phone, do not go there in person since you will again be trespassing) But to be honest with you, I don't think the hotel management will be firing anyone for using the word "Bitch" when they were addressing someone who had to be arrested because they wouldn't heed the warning to leave when they were told to. But if it makes you feel better, knock yourself out.

[poncho]

I disagree with one posting. Casino security guards are usually not employee's of the casino. Most are employee's of the guard company that has the contract for that casino. Same with valet parking. Had a valet break my cars column gear lever and put a ding on the rear trunk lid. Planet Hollywood must have been annoyed with the contract company, cause they threatened to back me up with camera evidence the valet abused my car the whole time that punk drove my car. Oh, thats how good the camera security network is in and around casino's. Have VIP entrance and parking at that casino and all the other Vegas places treat me extremely well. Another point all information is obtainable by the other casino's or they share information on certain things, cause I only get an extreme suite discount at Planet Hollywood, but the VIP valet parking is at all places.

Regardless that is another reason you get a trespassing warning card and the punishment for coming back after warned is so severe. Vegas PD and the casino's don't play around with drunk and disturbing atmosphere trouble makers. Legit complaints are dealt with better than anyplace on the Planet were you expect decent customer service for being a good tourist.

[michelie0]

well they did put handcuffs on me and wrote me a citation for trespassing and told me to go to court a month later.
I think I will have to get a lawyer but I am not sure how much they are for trespassing. anyone know?

[poncho]

Originally Posted by michelie0

well they did put handcuffs on me and wrote me a citation for trespassing and told me to go to court a month later.
I think I will have to get a lawyer but I am not sure how much they are for trespassing. anyone know?

Not 100% sure because cant see your citation. If Nevada law still makes it a misdemeanor for a person to willfully enter or remain on another persons land after having been warned by the owner or occupant (appointed agent) not to trespass. Then yes, you need a lawyer in Nevada. If you like casino's in Nevada and its not a misdemeanor. Even if you pay the fine, you can probably still be black balled from entering any Nevada casino. Not just the one that trespassed you.

If the security guards just gave you a Trespass Warning Card that looks like a citation? Your still in deep! But how deep cannot be determined without more information!

[michelie0]

well they did give me a pink piece of paper that was givin to me by the police so i assume thats a misdemeanor , which is the worst.
but i cannot get a lawyer in ca? because I dont live in NV , how would I go about that?

[poncho]

Originally Posted by michelie0

well they did give me a pink piece of paper that was givin to me by the police so i assume thats a misdemeanor , which is the worst.
but i cannot get a lawyer in ca? because I dont live in NV , how would I go about that?

Not legal advice. Logic dictates a California attorney is probably not aware of how serious a trespass is in Nevada and would not be aware how a local lawyer handles these cases. Not writing you are lying. When faced with possible arrest, lots of people suddenly need medical attention.

You don't take care of it, you will have a warrant out of Nevada for your arrest. Chances are 50/50 that any California police officer is aware of how easy it is to be charged with a misdemeanor for trespassing is in Nevada. Not a good thing for your background. Nevada lawyer has a better chance of getting the misdemeanor knocked down and the fine lowered. Not 100% sure because net searches can give old information, but seen $500 to $2000 and possible jail time. The latter might seldom be applied, but a California lawyer might not know that. My opinion and not legal advice is experience counts, Nevada lawyer is the best bet.

[outonbail]

Clark County does have some real good public defenders. It's rare I say this, but I have seen some of the public defenders in Vegas serve their clients very well.

They see these trespassing cases all the time so if you have no prior criminal record, I don't think you have to worry about jail. You'll probably end up with a small fine and some community service. You can do the community service in California at any non profit organization, church group etc.

If you are looking to hire a private attorney, I would recommend contacting the Clark County bar Association and ask for a referral.

I don't have a phone number handy, however the following link will bring you to their website where you can get their contact information.

[url=http://www.clarkcountybar.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1]Clark County Bar Association - Home[/url]