CharlieHazard
Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Indiana
Hello,
I was recently charged with reckless driving for someone slamming on their brakes and wrecking into me in passing lane...
About 3 am not long ago car went past our home, they threw out a large firecracker, something that exploded, yelling and making a hand gesture, while driving past.
This is a fairly quiet leave your doors unlocked (many) kind of town.
The car went by a couple more times so my son and I got in our car to follow if they came back again as they seemed to be driving by repeatedly like 3 passes.
WE followed the vehicle as it went past us again they didn't notice us sitting in our car I guess and they immediately turned into an elderly couple’s driveway on our street.
We passed the house and turned right onto the street immediately next to that house, went to the next block up and drove back towards our street again slowly, to avoid some maniac shooting from the driveway, as we didn't know who or what we were dealing with.
We turned the corner to see the car leaving back south in direction of our home, we caught up to the vehicle who sped up, we sped up went as if to pass them so we could identify who we were about to report for throwing explosives out of their car at our car.
The second we got next to the car the driver slammed their brakes on coming into our lane hitting our car,spinning our car sideways in the road.
We get out the car to a woman screaming at the top of her lungs that we hit their car intentionally over and over.
I let them know why we followed over the fireworks which was 4 large fireworks firecrackers and a Bic lighter taped together.
And that we were trying to identify, more screaming.
My son tells me dad, that's my ex girl friend (from a week ago break up over this girl taking s health care suggestion as an insult...)
She is the passenger and there is a boy and then a driver probably in her late 30s or 40 something with to barely 20 something kids in her car one being and ex girl friend , and with the incident I previously described just happening y coincidence.
I tell them I am recording the conversation since the screaming will not stop. I turn it on , the woman says in the recording, "I hit my brakes because you were following me".
Police show up, the woman's husband, boyfriend whatever shows up, as she called him, and he attempts to attack us in our car screaming "if that kid is in the car I'm killing" etc... Police restrain him twice.
Tons of local cops come , young decent guys and one older county. The old guys sees one of the skid marks (which actually showed them coming into our lane and when we hit our brakes) and and he starts yelling at the younger officers , I mean screaming "if you don't take him to jail I will someone better , he's going to jail!"
Young cop basically looks terrified, so I go to jail after passing breathalyzer and explaining my case , and they refused to even look for the shrapnel etc, even after my son showed some to them.
They towed my car to impound said it was out of gas would not let us drive or even push 200 feet to my house.
Cop tried saying I had an attitude when I said "no I'm not hurt".
they kept acting as if we did something wrong basically over this woman screaming.
There were no witnesses, the picture shows damage smashing my bumper from the rear to front of my car as she came forward hitting as she was against our car and I reacted applying my brakes, much bigger car stopped faster she came forward , it's visible,in pictures of skid marks ad my bumper.
The girl was laughing and joking with friends and boyfriend, until someone of the EMS who'd arrived asked if she was hurt and then she said I think my back, so that went into it all as well.
I don't know that the girl was aware that it was the driver's fault or even that (as I believe) the driver possibly saw an opportunity and intentionally hit our car, I can’t see any other reason why she veered left into our car and her skid marks are even both sides of car.
Now the public defender told me in a "hallway hearing" they wanted me to pay over 300 and to agree to stay away from the people for a year!
I said I'd rather commit suicide publicly, because it's damn lie and they committed a felony and no one gave them breathalyzers, nothing.
We received treats from the new boyfriend for some crazy reason same as the threats from the husband the night of the accident for some reason.
I know my son kissed her ass and gave no cause for the stuff I spent over 2 hours trying to help him make her able to comprehend through web MD etc., etc that no one is saying she is a whore over an infection, (yes it's that ridiculously stupid) that she insists would mean that she has an STD if any type of infection spread to my 23 year old son, which according to her means he was saying she was dirty ad a whore.
She is bi-polar and is sent home from work over crying binges like 3 days a week from a local store.
the driver was just caught shoplifting in one of the local stores as well.
None of this seems to matter to the public defender who told me in the follow up office visit that though my friend and ex supervisor of a PD of a pretty good size for 15 years, said they had no witnesses and no reason to arrest me or deny my my heart medications stating "we don't do co- reg ((the nurse)) I take 5 heart/BP pills a day, and my BP was very high when I finally had a bondsman get me out.
We showed them my BP, cuff and they said they'd make a note of it.
Now the PD is acting like he is angry as hell wit me for not wanting to take this "deal" they are trying to offer me.
I am disabled and there is not a dime they can take from me if I had it to give , and I wouldn't over a false accusations.
The driver of the other vehicle also we learned, is neighbor of my son's fellow band mate and they have told the kid's parents that they had a restraining order on us and that they could get into trouble , etc., and there is no restraining order against anyone.
I am told by the PD I must print up[ all of the photos though I burned to a CD and a USB drive for evidence of both the photos and the woman saying she hit er brakes because I was following her. I offered them to him and he has no interest it seems in any of it except me printing pictures but said nothing about the recording and didn’t even want to hear it.
Is this because they already made a deal and assumed I was guilty and I am creating more work ?
I just don't get any of this and how I am supposed to go down and press the charges and explain how they didn't do a breathalyzer etc. etc.
I already have been refused eds and believe could have been abused over saying I was not hurt, except for another officer approaching my car.
My insurance agent after I told him what happened ., exclaimed "That sounds like you dealt with so & so police dept to me, laughing , and informing me of being familiar with their tactics, and "ways".
My ex PD supervisor buddy said the same and worse, regarding the methods and tactics here.
he said he had sent 20 recruits here who all refused and went back to the PD he supervised, something about people's rights etc.
Of which I was never read mine nor told I was under arrest, as well.
This is more than stressful, I am literally afraid, and have ongoing liver disease and now ulcers again since this happened several months ago.
I am afraid they will charge me without allowing me to go back in front of the judge again who was fine with my USB drive and CD it seemed when I had them given to him, which he returned to me and told me to bring back to the trial.
I don't think this very sick girl could take me saying the personal problems she has and about the reason for their breakup, and it sickens me to even think of having to go there. I just don't know how driving by throwing a felony out the car window while yelling and making a hand gesture is able to have been ignored let alone the little bundle of love wrapped wit electrical tape and included an exploded Bic lighter.
The new BF in the car was going on about how he just got back from Afghanistan etc, and mentioned that plenty in his threatening texts to my son warning him to stay away from the girl etc.
The girls was never approached after my son had to give up on her ever being competent enough to understand what I regretfully had to explain above.
I apologize for my ignorance but I did security work, alongside some good cops in Tampa fr 3 years, saw a lot, of bad things and domestic disputes were always my job first & then involve police, there was no way out and I was one hell of a good baby sitter for a bunch of drunks, thieves , crackheads and people worth $70 million, all at the same time.
I am not some uncontrollable maniac this woman has made me out to be .
I don't know how a department can do tings like this and how someone can just tell a lie and get away with it, but I have until the 8th of December before I have to show up for what looks like another hallway hearing.
I haven't been able to get a witness to go with me to file the charges and that just doesn't sound kosher to me.
Just ignorant I know , I just obviously need the help.
Thank you in advance and sorry for the length.
Hello,
I was recently charged with reckless driving for someone slamming on their brakes and wrecking into me in passing lane...
About 3 am not long ago car went past our home, they threw out a large firecracker, something that exploded, yelling and making a hand gesture, while driving past.
This is a fairly quiet leave your doors unlocked (many) kind of town.
The car went by a couple more times so my son and I got in our car to follow if they came back again as they seemed to be driving by repeatedly like 3 passes.
WE followed the vehicle as it went past us again they didn't notice us sitting in our car I guess and they immediately turned into an elderly couple’s driveway on our street.
We passed the house and turned right onto the street immediately next to that house, went to the next block up and drove back towards our street again slowly, to avoid some maniac shooting from the driveway, as we didn't know who or what we were dealing with.
We turned the corner to see the car leaving back south in direction of our home, we caught up to the vehicle who sped up, we sped up went as if to pass them so we could identify who we were about to report for throwing explosives out of their car at our car.
The second we got next to the car the driver slammed their brakes on coming into our lane hitting our car,spinning our car sideways in the road.
We get out the car to a woman screaming at the top of her lungs that we hit their car intentionally over and over.
I let them know why we followed over the fireworks which was 4 large fireworks firecrackers and a Bic lighter taped together.
And that we were trying to identify, more screaming.
My son tells me dad, that's my ex girl friend (from a week ago break up over this girl taking s health care suggestion as an insult...)
She is the passenger and there is a boy and then a driver probably in her late 30s or 40 something with to barely 20 something kids in her car one being and ex girl friend , and with the incident I previously described just happening y coincidence.
I tell them I am recording the conversation since the screaming will not stop. I turn it on , the woman says in the recording, "I hit my brakes because you were following me".
Police show up, the woman's husband, boyfriend whatever shows up, as she called him, and he attempts to attack us in our car screaming "if that kid is in the car I'm killing" etc... Police restrain him twice.
Tons of local cops come , young decent guys and one older county. The old guys sees one of the skid marks (which actually showed them coming into our lane and when we hit our brakes) and and he starts yelling at the younger officers , I mean screaming "if you don't take him to jail I will someone better , he's going to jail!"
Young cop basically looks terrified, so I go to jail after passing breathalyzer and explaining my case , and they refused to even look for the shrapnel etc, even after my son showed some to them.
They towed my car to impound said it was out of gas would not let us drive or even push 200 feet to my house.
Cop tried saying I had an attitude when I said "no I'm not hurt".
they kept acting as if we did something wrong basically over this woman screaming.
There were no witnesses, the picture shows damage smashing my bumper from the rear to front of my car as she came forward hitting as she was against our car and I reacted applying my brakes, much bigger car stopped faster she came forward , it's visible,in pictures of skid marks ad my bumper.
The girl was laughing and joking with friends and boyfriend, until someone of the EMS who'd arrived asked if she was hurt and then she said I think my back, so that went into it all as well.
I don't know that the girl was aware that it was the driver's fault or even that (as I believe) the driver possibly saw an opportunity and intentionally hit our car, I can’t see any other reason why she veered left into our car and her skid marks are even both sides of car.
Now the public defender told me in a "hallway hearing" they wanted me to pay over 300 and to agree to stay away from the people for a year!
I said I'd rather commit suicide publicly, because it's damn lie and they committed a felony and no one gave them breathalyzers, nothing.
We received treats from the new boyfriend for some crazy reason same as the threats from the husband the night of the accident for some reason.
I know my son kissed her ass and gave no cause for the stuff I spent over 2 hours trying to help him make her able to comprehend through web MD etc., etc that no one is saying she is a whore over an infection, (yes it's that ridiculously stupid) that she insists would mean that she has an STD if any type of infection spread to my 23 year old son, which according to her means he was saying she was dirty ad a whore.
She is bi-polar and is sent home from work over crying binges like 3 days a week from a local store.
the driver was just caught shoplifting in one of the local stores as well.
None of this seems to matter to the public defender who told me in the follow up office visit that though my friend and ex supervisor of a PD of a pretty good size for 15 years, said they had no witnesses and no reason to arrest me or deny my my heart medications stating "we don't do co- reg ((the nurse)) I take 5 heart/BP pills a day, and my BP was very high when I finally had a bondsman get me out.
We showed them my BP, cuff and they said they'd make a note of it.
Now the PD is acting like he is angry as hell wit me for not wanting to take this "deal" they are trying to offer me.
I am disabled and there is not a dime they can take from me if I had it to give , and I wouldn't over a false accusations.
The driver of the other vehicle also we learned, is neighbor of my son's fellow band mate and they have told the kid's parents that they had a restraining order on us and that they could get into trouble , etc., and there is no restraining order against anyone.
I am told by the PD I must print up[ all of the photos though I burned to a CD and a USB drive for evidence of both the photos and the woman saying she hit er brakes because I was following her. I offered them to him and he has no interest it seems in any of it except me printing pictures but said nothing about the recording and didn’t even want to hear it.
Is this because they already made a deal and assumed I was guilty and I am creating more work ?
I just don't get any of this and how I am supposed to go down and press the charges and explain how they didn't do a breathalyzer etc. etc.
I already have been refused eds and believe could have been abused over saying I was not hurt, except for another officer approaching my car.
My insurance agent after I told him what happened ., exclaimed "That sounds like you dealt with so & so police dept to me, laughing , and informing me of being familiar with their tactics, and "ways".
My ex PD supervisor buddy said the same and worse, regarding the methods and tactics here.
he said he had sent 20 recruits here who all refused and went back to the PD he supervised, something about people's rights etc.
Of which I was never read mine nor told I was under arrest, as well.
This is more than stressful, I am literally afraid, and have ongoing liver disease and now ulcers again since this happened several months ago.
I am afraid they will charge me without allowing me to go back in front of the judge again who was fine with my USB drive and CD it seemed when I had them given to him, which he returned to me and told me to bring back to the trial.
I don't think this very sick girl could take me saying the personal problems she has and about the reason for their breakup, and it sickens me to even think of having to go there. I just don't know how driving by throwing a felony out the car window while yelling and making a hand gesture is able to have been ignored let alone the little bundle of love wrapped wit electrical tape and included an exploded Bic lighter.
The new BF in the car was going on about how he just got back from Afghanistan etc, and mentioned that plenty in his threatening texts to my son warning him to stay away from the girl etc.
The girls was never approached after my son had to give up on her ever being competent enough to understand what I regretfully had to explain above.
I apologize for my ignorance but I did security work, alongside some good cops in Tampa fr 3 years, saw a lot, of bad things and domestic disputes were always my job first & then involve police, there was no way out and I was one hell of a good baby sitter for a bunch of drunks, thieves , crackheads and people worth $70 million, all at the same time.
I am not some uncontrollable maniac this woman has made me out to be .
I don't know how a department can do tings like this and how someone can just tell a lie and get away with it, but I have until the 8th of December before I have to show up for what looks like another hallway hearing.
I haven't been able to get a witness to go with me to file the charges and that just doesn't sound kosher to me.
Just ignorant I know , I just obviously need the help.
Thank you in advance and sorry for the length.
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