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10-25-2007, 10:17 PM
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My friend tried to open a savings account but was denied due to someone else using her SSN. She went through all of the steps to get a credit report so that she could file a police report for identity theft, but found out her mother was the one using her SSN for work and to co-sign on a car. There are also other names of people who have used her SSN--some out of state--and outstanding debt with collection agencies present. She does not know whether the debt belonged to her mother's purchases, or the others who have stolen her SSN.
She doesn't want to press charges against her mom, who is an illegal immigrant, but wants to get her SSN back so she can clear her bad credit history, open new accounts, and make purchases. She is only 19 years old and everyone but her have ruined her credit history.
Would her mother face prison time and deportation for the use of her daughter's SSN?
Is there any way to clear up her bad credit?
Extra (edit): Because she was too young to even use credit when her mom used the number in the purchase of a vehicle, her mother's name/birthdate is the exisitng name listed on her credit history. This is why she cannot use her own SSN to make purchases, or open accounts, because her name does not match the one that now exists on her credit report.
It is ridiculous that it could ever happen, but since it has, it has ruined her future credit before she could ever use it once.
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10-25-2007, 10:27 PM
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She can choose to protect her mother and pay off the debt. Or, she can file police reports on the fraudulent use of her social security number. She will also want to check with social security to see if her number has been used for 'work' purposes. The work history that does not pertain to her can be expunged by bringing in the police report to social security.
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10-25-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel Would her mother face prison time and deportation for the use of her daughter's SSN?
Is there any way to clear up her bad credit?
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10-26-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel She doesn't want to press charges against her mom, who is an illegal immigrant ...
Would her mother face prison time and deportation for the use of her daughter's SSN? | We can only hope for deportation.
So Mom's a career criminal who broke the law and continues to do so. Seems like she either protects Mom *or* protects herself. Not both. It sounds like she'd be willing to go after someone else who did this to her but it's ok if Mom does it? If someone else deserves to deal with the consequences doesn't Mom also? | 
11-03-2007, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyShot We can only hope for deportation.
So Mom's a career criminal who broke the law and continues to do so. Seems like she either protects Mom *or* protects herself. Not both. It sounds like she'd be willing to go after someone else who did this to her but it's ok if Mom does it? If someone else deserves to deal with the consequences doesn't Mom also? | Would you turn in your own mother? My friend is an American citizen at 19, and has had parents living in California trying to become citizens for just as long. True, it is unsavory that her mother is an illegal immigrant, but you don't get to choose your parents, or their pasts. | 
11-03-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel Would you turn in your own mother? My friend is an American citizen at 19, and has had parents living in California trying to become citizens for just as long. True, it is unsavory that her mother is an illegal immigrant, but you don't get to choose your parents, or their pasts. | Would you protect your mother who is a liar and a thief? Where are YOUR morals?
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11-03-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel Would you turn in your own mother? My friend is an American citizen at 19, and has had parents living in California trying to become citizens for just as long. True, it is unsavory that her mother is an illegal immigrant, but you don't get to choose your parents, or their pasts. | Nope, but WE can choose our country mates.
That's why we have immigration laws.
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11-04-2007, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by moburkes Would you protect your mother who is a liar and a thief? Where are YOUR morals? | Of course I would; I have values. Where are YOURS? Or did you trade them in for blind ethics?
What would your mother say to such an ingrateful attitude toward her because her one crime was coming to a country to give birth to you so that you could have a better future?
Don't attack good people without good knowledge of their intentions. Of course, feigning ignorance is never an excuse when it comes to having no idea of the severity of using someone's SSID, but she has committed no crime other than still being here with an expired work permit and waiting for her application to process--she pays taxes, owns property, and has a driver's license... just no SSID of her own so she had to use her daughter's. No doubt, it was an incredibly bad mistake, but I'm sure it has happened before and they will find a way to get out of the whole situation. | 
11-04-2007, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel Of course I would; I have values. Where are YOURS? Or did you trade them in for blind ethics?
What would your mother say to such an ingrateful attitude toward her because her one crime was coming to a country to give birth to you so that you could have a better future?
Don't attack good people without good knowledge of their intentions. Of course, feigning ignorance is never an excuse when it comes to having no idea of the severity of using someone's SSID, but she has committed no crime other than still being here with an expired work permit and waiting for her application to process--she pays taxes, owns property, and has a driver's license... just no SSID of her own so she had to use her daughter's. No doubt, it was an incredibly bad mistake, but I'm sure it has happened before and they will find a way to get out of the whole situation. | Read what you wrote - again and again and again and again. Then, read the OP again and again and again.
My parents never taught me to cover up a crime.
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11-04-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel What would your mother say to such an ingrateful attitude toward her because her one crime was coming to a country to give birth to you so that you could have a better future? | Actually, my aunt (my mother's mother) stole the identity of both myself, my sister AND my son (my sister before - then got hold of mine and my son's SS cards). My mother herself told me to call the police and throw her a$$ under the bus. See, I don't have loyalty to people who don't have it to me, I don't care if you gave birth to me or not. Quote: |
...but she has committed no crime other than still being here with an expired work permit ....
| Actually... she's committed quite a few crimes other than being here illegally.
Such as:
Identity theft
Contractual Fraud
Employment Fraud
Not to mention she doesn't pay her bills....
And we want to open the borders???? Tell your friend to call the police and hopefully, just hopefully, ICE will get it right and deport her.
Oh... and since when does it take 20 years to obtain citizenship??? She hasn't been working at it that hard.
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11-09-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkanjel What is the name of your state? California
My friend tried to open a savings account but was denied due to someone else using her SSN. She went through all of the steps to get a credit report so that she could file a police report for identity theft, but found out her mother was the one using her SSN for work and to co-sign on a car. There are also other names of people who have used her SSN--some out of state--and outstanding debt with collection agencies present. She does not know whether the debt belonged to her mother's purchases, or the others who have stolen her SSN.
She doesn't want to press charges against her mom, who is an illegal immigrant, but wants to get her SSN back so she can clear her bad credit history, open new accounts, and make purchases. She is only 19 years old and everyone but her have ruined her credit history.
Would her mother face prison time and deportation for the use of her daughter's SSN?
Is there any way to clear up her bad credit?
Extra (edit): Because she was too young to even use credit when her mom used the number in the purchase of a vehicle, her mother's name/birthdate is the exisitng name listed on her credit history. This is why she cannot use her own SSN to make purchases, or open accounts, because her name does not match the one that now exists on her credit report.
It is ridiculous that it could ever happen, but since it has, it has ruined her future credit before she could ever use it once. | I've never filed a ID theft report, but I've been told by others who have, that you don't have to name who stole your ID. Might want to check into that.
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Most of your answers can be found by googling: credit info center. Tons of consumer information regarding very possible kind of debt. You can find people who have been in your situation and will give you advice. Plus they are really helpful there!
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11-09-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzle1979 I've never filed a ID theft report, but I've been told by others who have, that you don't have to name who stole your ID. Might want to check into that. | Fizzle, are you actually advising the poster to look into filing false police reports?
ahh, welcome back GB. Sneaky bugger aren't you.
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12-05-2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by debtcollector` Fizzle, are you actually advising the poster to look into filing false police reports?
ahh, welcome back GB. Sneaky bugger aren't you.
DC | I don't recall saying anything about a police report.
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