Denying paternal rights

[Proserpina]

Originally Posted by TheGeekess

Legally:
After Baby is born, Presumed Dad has the right to file for paternity/custody/visitation/child support.

If Presumed Dad chooses to file for such, you will be court-ordered to co-parent with this man for the next 18+ years.

If Presumed Dad files for such and you choose to ignore/blow off the court orders, Presumed Dad may very well end up with custody and you'll pay Child Support and have visitation per court order.

Apparently we're all forgetting about the statutory rape bit.

[kt09]

Originally Posted by Hisbabygirl77

The childs father is not just anyone and its not just YOUR child. What part of that dont you understand? He was good enough for you to spread your lil legs to now wasnt he. So you should have thought about how lazy and dumb he was before you showed what a bigger fool you were to spread your legs for someone who you did not find up to the standards you wanted for the father of your children. He is the other half of your child so remember when you call him names your calling the child the same thing.

Yes, I "spread my legs" for him. I realize it was stupid now. I'm sure you've never made a bad decision in a boyfriend/significant other. It's not an excuse because I wasn't raised to believe that sex out of marriage is ok, but I was going through a very insecure, difficult time in my life. I acted without thinking logically, and I'm paying for it. I never planned to conceive his child, but it happened and I'm dealing with it. And no, I am not calling my child that because no matter what happens, my child will not end up like him. Anyone can contribute DNA to make a life, that doesn't mean he is going to parent my child.

[Hisbabygirl77]

Originally Posted by kt09

Yes, I "spread my legs" for him. I realize it was stupid now. I'm sure you've never made a bad decision in a boyfriend/significant other. It's not an excuse because I wasn't raised to believe that sex out of marriage is ok, but I was going through a very insecure, difficult time in my life. I acted without thinking logically, and I'm paying for it. I never planned to conceive his child, but it happened and I'm dealing with it. And no, I am not calling my child that because no matter what happens, my child will not end up like him. Anyone can contribute DNA to make a life, that doesn't mean he is going to parent my child.

Great his child wont end up that way so your worry about him being around Jr because your child might catch his "dumb" is null and void and now you have no excuse for daddy not to see child. Great glad that is cleared up.

[Proserpina]

. Anyone can contribute DNA to make a life, that doesn't mean he is going to parent my child.

It's his child too.

[kt09]

Originally Posted by Dogmatique

Does that include the Statutory Rape Game, or what?

Look. You brought that up - you have basically stated that unless he went away you'd be quite ok with having him charged for statutory rape if that would mean he'd have no access to his child.

How exactly do you think that will play out?

How does that have anything whatsoever to do with what you quoted?

I brought that up to ask if it would effect a court decision. And yes, I am perfectly ok with having him prosecuted for that if it would mean that he would have no/less rights to my baby. Understand that I am determined to do whatever it takes to keep him away from us. If nothing works, then nothing works. But I will not lay down and let him have anything without a fight.

[Hisbabygirl77]

Originally Posted by kt09

How does that have anything whatsoever to do with what you quoted?

I brought that up to ask if it would effect a court decision. And yes, I am perfectly ok with having him prosecuted for that if it would mean that he would have no/less rights to my baby. Understand that I am determined to do whatever it takes to keep him away from us. If nothing works, then nothing works. But I will not lay down and let him have anything without a fight.

I hope dad does go for custody someone with your thinking has no right to raise a child. That was just terrible what you stated. How selfish a parent would you be to do that.

[Proserpina]

Originally Posted by kt09

How does that have anything whatsoever to do with what you quoted?

I brought that up to ask if it would effect a court decision. And yes, I am perfectly ok with having him prosecuted for that if it would mean that he would have no/less rights to my baby. Understand that I am determined to do whatever it takes to keep him away from us. If nothing works, then nothing works. But I will not lay down and let him have anything without a fight.

Wow.

Stellar.

[TheGeekess]

Originally Posted by Dogmatique

Apparently we're all forgetting about the statutory rape bit.

I don't think it's going to matter a whole lot.....

I think OP needs to read some of the forum to see what can happen to a parent who refuses to play fair with the other parent.

[Proserpina]

Originally Posted by TheGeekess

I don't think it's going to matter a whole lot.....

I think OP needs to read some of the forum to see what can happen to a parent who refuses to play fair with the other parent.

Sigh...we can only hope.

[kt09]

Originally Posted by Dogmatique

It's his child too.

Biologically. My mother's biological grandparents took her from her biological mother and father when she and my uncle were 4 and 5. She's not bitter about not being raised with her birth parents. She's thankful that she was raised by good, Godly people rather than who she would've ended up with if they hadn't done anything. My grandparents were not being selfish by taking them from their birth parents. They did it because they believed it would be best for them. That's the way I view this, and I believe my son would see it the same way.

[Proserpina]

. But I will not lay down and let him have anything without a fight.

You laid down with him and let him have whatever it was he wanted then without a fight - what on earth makes you think you get to change your mind now?

(and yes - it really IS that simple)

[kt09]

Originally Posted by TheGeekess

I don't think it's going to matter a whole lot.....

I think OP needs to read some of the forum to see what can happen to a parent who refuses to play fair with the other parent.

I never said I wouldn't "play fair." By that, I'm assuming you mean going against court orders, refusing visitation if it's court granted, etc. I understand that I'm obligated to do whatever the court orders me to do. I just said I will do all within my power to try and keep this from happening.

[Hisbabygirl77]

Originally Posted by kt09

Biologically. My mother's biological grandparents took her from her biological mother and father when she and my uncle were 4 and 5. She's not bitter about not being raised with her birth parents. She's thankful that she was raised by good, Godly people rather than who she would've ended up with if they hadn't done anything. My grandparents were not being selfish by taking them from their birth parents. They did it because they believed it would be best for them. That's the way I view this, and I believe my son would see it the same way.

To bad the LAW doesnt see it your way. Keep it up girl and you wont have custody of your child at all when the judge sees you trying to keep daddy out of his/her life.

[Proserpina]

Originally Posted by kt09

I never said I wouldn't "play fair." By that, I'm assuming you mean going against court orders, refusing visitation if it's court granted, etc. I understand that I'm obligated to do whatever the court orders me to do. I just said I will do all within my power to try and keep this from happening.

Yet you are unwilling to listen to the legal realities of your situation.

[kt09]

Originally Posted by Hisbabygirl77

To bad the LAW doesnt see it your way. Keep it up girl and you wont have custody of your child at all when the judge sees you trying to keep daddy out of his/her life.

If a court would take a child away from a mother with the financial means to support a baby and give him to a father who can barely support himself on his unemployment check, then there is a huge problem with the American legal system. Anyways, there is nothing illegal about fighting him on this in court. As of right now, he has no rights because he hasn't filed for anything yet. And as I already said, I do not ever plan to go against court orders. I just want to keep it from going there.