His atty playing games with court order

[spock2001us]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? MI

My ex filed a motion to lower spousal and child support, and a other things like visitation, and property.

I had filed the original motion because he kept shorting my payments each month. He then followed up with a bunch of trivial things in additional motions. I had to scrape up money for an atty I can't afford.

In court, both he and his attorney were flat out told no on every issue he argued. He was told to pay the proper amount plus arrearage. The judge told his atty to write up the order because I could not afford to pay my attorney to do it. So, his attorney writes the order and sends me a copy of it for me to sign and he flat out changed what was said by the judge and omitted important issues in the order, such as arrearage and the monthly amount due....so now what? My atty won't talk to me and I am holding something that is incorrect. How do I complain to the judge that his atty is a jerk and get the court order written properly?

I can't believe I now have to pay an atty to negotiate what was said in court so the order is entered properly.

[meanyjack]

Don't sign it. Keep that copy.

Why won't your attorney talk to you? Or is it because you would have to pay additional fees? Has your attorney motioned the court for your attorney's fees?

You can send a letter to your ex's attorney (certified w/return receipt) stating that you are in receipt of whatever it is he sent, then state that the (whatever it is) is NOT what the Judge ordered. Since it is not correct, you will not sign it. As difficult as it might be, try to withhold emotional language like "listen d-bag, you are playing games here blah blah blah."
Just keep it as short and professional and to-the-point as possible.

[Ohiogal]

This is a double or triple post. I have lost count.

[spock2001us]

This is a double or triple post. I have lost count.

Ohiogal: I stumbled upon this website yesterday after posting on other websites and I received no response. I posted my question in two different forums on this website in hopes of eliciting an answer to my question.

I did not know that by posting in two different areas of the Free Advice website that I was somehow breaking the "Free Advice code of conduct". In the future I will be certain to post my query in ONLY ONE FORUM TOPIC, provided that it will make you happy. I pledge to search this website for the conduct rules.

Also, I asked the same question in two different forums because I wanted someone to offer advice for my problem, and I thought I had a better chance someone would see it.

Can YOU please explain why you felt it necessary to poke fun at my situation? I am certain that each member on this website is pleased that you have pointed out that I posted my question so many times that you "lost count". Actually the number is (2) times, which I find extremely unlikely that you could have "lost count", but then again I don't know you so I must leave open the possibility.

[Silverplum]

Ohiogal: I stumbled upon this website yesterday after posting on other websites and I received no response. I posted my question in two different forums on this website in hopes of eliciting an answer to my question.

I did not know that by posting in two different areas of the Free Advice website that I was somehow breaking the "Free Advice code of conduct". In the future I will be certain to post my query in ONLY ONE FORUM TOPIC, provided that it will make you happy. I pledge to search this website for the conduct rules.

Also, I asked the same question in two different forums because I wanted someone to offer advice for my problem, and I thought I had a better chance someone would see it.

Can YOU please explain why you felt it necessary to poke fun at my situation? I am certain that each member on this website is pleased that you have pointed out that I posted my question so many times that you "lost count". Actually the number is (2) times, which I find extremely unlikely that you could have "lost count", but then again I don't know you so I must leave open the possibility.

No need to get hysterical.

Forum rules. One post, pick your forum. No spamming across the forum. That's not too difficult, for most.

[spock2001us]

No need to get hysterical.

Forum rules. One post, pick your forum. No spamming across the forum. That's not too difficult, for most.

No problem Silverplum. Could you please point out where I find the "forum rules" in hopes that I do not cross another sacred boundary? Although, I am not certain that even with the forum rules I could prevent myself from "spamming" the website. I lay awake at night and struggle with this "difficult" dilemma.

[Ohiogal]

Ohiogal: (please see bottom paragraphs) I stumbled upon this website yesterday after posting on other websites and I received no response. I posted my question in two different forums on this website in hopes of eliciting an answer to my question.

I did not know that by posting in two different areas of the Free Advice website that I was somehow breaking the "Free Advice code of conduct". In the future I will be certain to post my query in ONLY ONE FORUM TOPIC, provided that it will make you happy. I pledge to search this website for the conduct rules.

Also, I asked the same question in two different forums because I wanted someone to offer advice for my problem, and I thought I had a better chance someone would see it.

Can YOU please explain why you felt it necessary to poke fun at my situation? I am certain that each member on this website is pleased that you have pointed out that I posted my question (2) times because I am not happy.

Ohiogal, I can assure you that while I have things going on in my life, whether I post on this website once, twice, or a thousand times, it has absolutely nothing to do with my "happiness".

Perhaps you could explain why you felt the need to flame me while all I came here for was an answer to something that was new to me. I did not know that "Free Advice" included being made fun of in a public forum. Were you not "Happy" enough to simply read my question and either provide your opinion or shutup?

On this thread she does NOT tell me to shut up. On the other thread (see above) she does. Careful folks or she will tell you to shut up if she doesn't like what she hears. Since she wants to give me a choice -- I am shutting up now.

[spock2001us]

On this thread she does NOT tell me to shut up. On the other thread (see above) she does. Careful folks or she will tell you to shut up if she doesn't like what she hears. Since she wants to give me a choice -- I am shutting up now.

That's fine. Can you please explain to me why you keep double posting and replying to two threads with the exact same message? Sit back, tell me a little about your past. Did your parents not show you enough love?

I tell no one to shut up simply because I do not like what I hear. I thought that by belittling both me and my situation when you know nothing about me was a bit over the top. And, that has nothing to do with whether I am happy posting in more than one place.

Oh, and stop double posting to the exact same message in (2) different threads. Aren't you a "SENIOR MEMBER" and aren't you the one who wrote the "Newbie rules"?

P.S. I also read several of your posts and apparently you take pride in attacking and flaming members on this site. Good luck with that!!

[mlane58]

That's fine. Can you please explain to me why you keep double posting and replying to two threads with the exact same message? Sit back, tell me a little about your past. Did your parents not show you enough love?

I tell no one to shut up simply because I do not like what I hear. I thought that by belittling both me and my situation when you know nothing about me was a bit over the top. And, that has nothing to do with whether I am happy posting in more than one place.

Oh, and stop double posting to the exact same message in (2) different threads. Aren't you a "SENIOR MEMBER" and aren't you the one who wrote the "Newbie rules"?

P.S. I also read several of your posts and apparently you take pride in attacking and flaming members on this site. Good luck with that!!

GEEZ, JUST GO AWAY! I would tend to believe your ex and you are the one that is a stickler for trival things and Oh! the flaming has just started.

[spock2001us]

GEEZ, JUST GO AWAY! I would tend to believe your ex and you are the one that is a stickler for trival things and Oh! the flaming has just started.

At what point do you know anything about my ex? Is it a trivial thing when your ex stops paying COURT ORDERED spousal and child support? Is it a trivial thing when your ex claims poverty as the reason he cannot pay, and therefore wants to change the terms of the divorce? Is it a trivial thing then your ex's attorney pleads with the judge that he cannot pay, and although the support terms of the divorce are NON MODIFIABLE, he somehow deserves a break? In MI see Staple v Staple, 241 Mich App 562 (2000), which means the support cannot change. There was a $ amount set for total support and if child support changes, spousal support will change so the total monthly amount due will remain the same. Is it trivial that his attorney omitted the judge ordering him to pay back support? I don't consider any of that to be trivial matters.

I referred to trivial matters in my original post which he filed motions in response to my motion for him to pay me the proper amount of support. I consider trivial his motion for him to come get the rest of his belongings. I would gladly put his belonging in the driveway for him to take away any day of the week, however due to a "no contact order" following the physical assault by him, he cannot come to the house. He only made a big deal of it because I filed the motion for him to pay me the full amount as ordered by the court.

In fact, one trivial thing is that when his attorney wrote up his version of the order, the Judge told him he had one day to come get his belongings, bring a moving van, and bring the police due to the no contact order. All parties agreed on the date and time for him to retrieve his belongings. In the order written by his attorney, he wrote that my ex will come get his belongings on that day, with a third party, and whatever he did not take on that day, he could retrieve at a later date as he chooses. The Judge clearly told him to bring the police and his movers, not to take what he wants and come another day. Whether he takes his belongings or not is very trivial in my view, I don't care either way.

So, while you give me the "the flaming has just started" please take note that after being physically assaulted by my ex, and sending him to jail, he continues to drag me into court for trivial matters as a way to harass and control me. He cannot call me, he cannot email me, he cannot come near me, but he can try his best to mentally abuse me when he and his attorney play games with me.

[meanyjack]

That's fine. Can you please explain to me why you keep double posting and replying to two threads with the exact same message? Sit back, tell me a little about your past. Did your parents not show you enough love?

I tell no one to shut up simply because I do not like what I hear. I thought that by belittling both me and my situation when you know nothing about me was a bit over the top. And, that has nothing to do with whether I am happy posting in more than one place.

Oh, and stop double posting to the exact same message in (2) different threads. Aren't you a "SENIOR MEMBER" and aren't you the one who wrote the "Newbie rules"?

P.S. I also read several of your posts and apparently you take pride in attacking and flaming members on this site. Good luck with that!!

You're a (expletive) idiot. Nothing pisses me off more on here than trolls like you double/triple-posting (only to find out after I respond), then people like you acting like your Aunt Flo is here when you're called out. Please spare us with your "tough person" attitude while hiding behind your keyboard.

Now get back to work and take another order.

[Ohiogal]

After searching I finally did find "Newbies Please Read Before Posting" as written by Ohiogal.

[url]http://forum.freeadvice.com/child-custody-visitation-37/newbies-please-read-before-posting-387214.html[/url]

There is in fact a reference to DOUBLEPOSTING in paragraph (9). Perhaps when someone signs up for "Free Advice" there should be a direct link to Ohiogal's posts so that we can all read the rules before posting. However, when I signed up last night there was no link to "the rules of posting".

Also, please note paragraph (8) which states:

"you will find that we senior members know our stuff. We disagree at times but we don't get rude, arrogant and name calling."

I think that by pointing out that I was not "happy" with one post, and that Ohiogal "lost count" of my (2) posts, in fact she was acting arrogant and rude. Perhaps in the future, a reference to the "forum rules" would be less rude.

I did not write that post. In fact, I assembled it. Various members including Silverplum, Ldij, Baystategirl and others made suggestions and helped with editing and wording. Again you are not showing you know anything. When you told me to shut up you were the one being rude. I just pointed out that you have various postings asking the same thing and all that does is cause confusion.