Ridiculous decison child support+day care-father left with $150 per week

[looser92]

What is the name of your state?
New York.
Today the most ridiculous decision I received in a family court for a child support and a day care (7 month baby). My be-weekly wages are $1580 - her $1360. In addition, I already paying be-weekly $231 to the first child but different person.
So, $1580 minus taxes appr $420.00, minus $231 first child support, minus $235 second child support, today I got minus $400 for a day care, leaving me (I leave separate from children with my own expences as a rent appartment, car insurance, utilitys, etc,) with $294 be-weekly. It is lower then surviving level !!!!!!
From about forty thousands dollars yearly salary I was left with $147 per week and that is she presented a day care receipt that she pays 1,600 per month!!! Where is the justice?
Please help with advise what to do, may some others day cares can be cheaper or so, or any others ideas. Thank you on advance!What is the name of your state? NY.So many watchers but no advices so far...

[Chardog]

try [url]www.deltabravo.net[/url]. This site is not very useful for men. I first came to this site and was flamed on for my lack of knowledge. Now I have joint custody, and the bm is the one making visitations. You're in a bad situation, and I cannot help much, but refer you to the great group of guys at sparc. Good luck with your journey, and consider a vasectomy

[GrowUp!]

Originally Posted by Chardog

Now I have joint custody, and the bm is the one making visitations. You're in a bad situation, and I cannot help much, but refer you to the great group of guys at sparc. Good luck with your journey, and consider a vasectomy

I was wondering who's "bitter pill" refill prescription this was for. If you have joint legal, then why is the BM "making" visitation? Unless you have not gone to court for your parenting time, then the COURT should have decided, not her.

OP...so what arguments/other evidence, objections etc. did you provide at that time? What type of receipt did she provide? Something she made up or a valid, original bill from the daycare provider? Do you have any court-ordered parenting time? Did you provide other daycare that is licensed that is cheaper?

[BL]

Originally Posted by looser92

What is the name of your state?
New York.
Today the most ridiculous decision I received in a family court for a child support and a day care (7 month baby). My be-weekly wages are $1580 - her $1360. In addition, I already paying be-weekly $231 to the first child but different person.
So, $1580 minus taxes appr $420.00, minus $231 first child support, minus $235 second child support, today I got minus $400 for a day care, leaving me (I leave separate from children with my own expences as a rent appartment, car insurance, utilitys, etc,) with $294 be-weekly. It is lower then surviving level !!!!!!
From about forty thousands dollars yearly salary I was left with $147 per week and that is she presented a day care receipt that she pays 1,600 per month!!! Where is the justice?
Please help with advise what to do, may some others day cares can be cheaper or so, or any others ideas. Thank you on advance!What is the name of your state? NY.So many watchers but no advices so far...

You have 30 days to file a line by line written Objection and mail it , or take it to the Court Clerk's for filing .

Your objection will be reviewed by a Family Court Judge , and a decision on the objection will be made .

You should get the information when you get the copy of the order .

Meanwhile look up the New York State child support standards act worksheet , and do some figuring .

[nextwife]

Originally Posted by looser92

From about forty thousands dollars yearly salary I was left with $147 per week and that is she presented a day care receipt that she pays 1,600 per month!!!

And research the costs of an accredited daycare for the child, based upon the age. It's one thing to pay for daycare, it's another to provide a personal assistant! Obtain written confirmation of the cost options and petition to only be responsible for HALF the cost of a standard accredited daycare, mom being responsible for the other half. If mom wants a nanny she can make up the difference.

[BL]

Originally Posted by nextwife

And research the costs of an accredited daycare for the child, based upon the age. It's one thing to pay for daycare, it's another to provide a personal assistant! Obtain written confirmation of the cost options and petition to only be responsible for HALF the cost of a standard accredited daycare, mom being responsible for the other half. If mom wants a nanny she can make up the difference.

Good point .

Also attach the written proof and file it with your objection .

[LdiJ]

Originally Posted by nextwife

And research the costs of an accredited daycare for the child, based upon the age. It's one thing to pay for daycare, it's another to provide a personal assistant! Obtain written confirmation of the cost options and petition to only be responsible for HALF the cost of a standard accredited daycare, mom being responsible for the other half. If mom wants a nanny she can make up the difference.

I have heard, repeatedly, that daycare for infants is incredibly expensive in NY. However, even for NY 400.00 a week seems really high.

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by LdiJ

I have heard, repeatedly, that daycare for infants is incredibly expensive in NY. However, even for NY 400.00 a week seems really high.

It is expensive. The referees usually won't even blink at a $1000-$1200/mo. bill. Depending on the exact neighborhood, $1600/mo. might even be low.

However, it does appear the support ref forgot to charge dad for his share of the medical insurance coverage. Might be time to start looking for that second job before it gets added into the award.

[nextwife]

How is it that the second CS order is for MORE than the first? Did they first deduct the total CS order for the first child that you are already paying before determining your available income for the second order? Could it be this was determined without taking the prior support obligation into consideration.

[BL]

Originally Posted by nextwife

How is it that the second CS order is for MORE than the first? Did they first deduct the total CS order for the first child that you are already paying before determining your available income for the second order? Could it be this was determined without taking the prior support obligation into consideration.

That's why I suggested the CS standards act worksheet .

If they both submitted correct accounts of income , expenses ,etc . something don't seem right .

[looser92]

Originally Posted by nextwife

How is it that the second CS order is for MORE than the first? Did they first deduct the total CS order for the first child that you are already paying before determining your available income for the second order? Could it be this was determined without taking the prior support obligation into consideration.

Yes, it can be. The first CS was determined a couple years ago that I was making 38K, she was 51K. So, CS was $231 be-weekly for myself including day care!!!
Now, the last my trip to the court a couple days ago for a second SC, I do not know what the judge looked at, but she said that $400.00 bi-weelky she cannot see any objections to that. So I was left with only one decision - get a hearing in couple of month. Thank you all forum for helpful advises!!! I feel a little better now

[looser92]

Originally Posted by Blonde Lebinese

That's why I suggested the CS standards act worksheet .
If they both submitted correct accounts of income , expenses ,etc . something don't seem right .

Thank you on advance fof a helpful advice. Did you by the way hear that there is somekind of limit for leaving let say I heard it is 13K in NY, so they cannoot take anything less than this level. Again I am now doing 40K.

[nextwife]

Have you run the numbers, as to the actual CS portion of the order?

[looser92]

Originally Posted by nextwife

How is it that the second CS order is for MORE than the first? Did they first deduct the total CS order for the first child that you are already paying before determining your available income for the second order? Could it be this was determined without taking the prior support obligation into consideration.

You might be right that the judge did not even look at the first CS and simply made me a big favor leaving me with so low money. But again, first CS was determined as I was 38K, she was 51K, so CS including day care ($500 per month) was mine part $231.00 be-weekly!!! Now, second child, I am 40K, she is 30K, and very first time the judge determined that the second CS will be $235.00, probably because she showed the low salary, which I am sure she is making more, but I do not know how can I catch her on it. But once she said that and showed W2 for sitter, judge immediately said that it OK. That I said I want hearing!!!
In a middle while the child support unit send me the bills that I need to pay what the judge said, I was wondering if I have not so much money to pay what would it happen. Thank you all forum so you are here to help!!!

[looser92]

Originally Posted by You Are Guilty

It is expensive. The referees usually won't even blink at a $1000-$1200/mo. bill. Depending on the exact neighborhood, $1600/mo. might even be low.

However, it does appear the support ref forgot to charge dad for his share of the medical insurance coverage. Might be time to start looking for that second job before it gets added into the award.

Thank you for writing me back. I have a medical insurance if needed. But she is using her even my is better. Thanks.