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scubasteve1228

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I am trying to find an attorney who will help represent me against the California. I have had the following happen to me: probation department (charged 9 misdemeanors against me for ditching school or being late), they performed illegal cavity searches as well as incarcerated for extremely long periods of time in Juvenile Hall, they tried to put 15 years-life on me for ditching school 9 times, and running through a screen door which scratched my mother's leg-assualt with a deadly weapon and intent to cause bodily harm), Juvenile hall of san diego (I would be placed in a holding cell from 1 day to a month long with no going out of the cell at all), group homes for illegally medicating me (1500 milligrams of lithium and 1200 milligrams of luvox), social services (foster care unit) for not giving me proper care once I was emancipated from the state.

I have kept all this a secret for a long time: the abuse, neglect, and severe mental debilitating disorders originated from these events. This is because of several reasons: 1) I thought I would end up back in the system since the issue was never resolved. 2) I was scared to confront my issues, because I was afraid it was too much for me to deal with. 3) I didn't know what they did was wrong at the time. 3) It is embarrassing to confront these events. About a year ago I had a mental break down, and started to seek counseling for what happened to me, and to try and fix my problems. I am still seeking counseling on what has happened to me, and the damage of it all. I need helping finding someone that can help defend my rights that were so easily trampled on. Not many people in my type of situation are even alive or not back in jail today, and I want to find some closure. This is my story:

I am writing this to explain how my civil rights have been violated by the state of California and its Judicial System. I was born with impairment, but I lived mostly a happy regular life until I was 9. When I was in 4th grade I witnessed a heinous crime by my step-father. This created an imbalance in my mind. I had very poor skills at dealing with this kind of trauma. Due to that I avoided school and played video games all day. My sense of reality was much distorted when I was younger. I did not understand the consequences of my actions of ditching school time and again. I did not understand why I was getting in trouble. During one time when I had an argument with my mother the police were called to the home. At this time my mother (being single with 3 kids after my step-father’s actions) had one of two options from the police:
1) Have a chance to have all of your children taken away
2) Sign custody of your son away and we will get him help
These were the options my mother had. She chose option 2, and thus I was award of court and assigned a felony level assault with a deadly weapon (a screen door I broke through and scratched my mother’s leg) and a felony level intent to cause bodily harm. Due to those 2 felonies I was brought to Juvenile Hall. I spent my first week in a holding cell with nothing more than a mattress and a blanket. I had no shower for that week, and did not go outside or participate in any activity other than being in that cell. Trust me I remember exactly what it looks like still to this day, and sometimes wake up thinking I’m in there still. I finally was sent to cell block 400 a low level part of juvenile hall where kids my aged stayed. I was not explained any rules, and was allowed a phone call. I went to the phone and talked for 5 min. When I was told to get off the phone I said good bye to my mother and was pepper sprayed when I turned around. I was then handcuffed and lifted by my arms dislocating them and thrown in a cell for another week with nothing other than a blanket and a matt. I spent 3 months this time continuously going about this route.
I finally received a court date, and when I was introduced to my attorney she told me to plead guilty. Due to my incomplete maturity level I had no idea what was going on. I was put into a court room where apparently I pleaded guilty to two felonies without realizing it. They released me to a group home for 3 months where I was with 17 year olds. I was continuously abused and picked on by these other group home members because I was much younger than them. I spent my time there enough to get released home on probation. I then had to attend probationary school continuously by bus route. It was a long bus route from Carlsbad to Escondido. I’m not sure if I kept being late or not showing up as my memory got very distorted around this time, but one thing I’m positive about was that we stayed in an office building.
I could still hear the shackles clanking on the other side of the wall whenever they would come to lock me up. Whenever I heard that I knew for some reason (wasn’t sure why) but that I was going to be the one locked up in shackles. So the clanking sound would send chills down my spine and paralyze me with fear. I know the probation officers were asking me to come to the office, but I could never move, so they dragged me into there. In the office I would be stripped down and have a full cavity searches by a staff member. They would shackle me up with almost no clothes on, and put me in a van. They would then drive me to the juvenile facility and tell me I would be there overnight. Sometimes overnight would mean a weak. Other times it was a month. This happened a total of 8-9 times. During these periods I would be in a single holding cell not able to go out at all. One of those times I remember a staff member felt bad for me and gave me a single book to read (only one). I read it for what was a month or more in that holding cell. Sometimes I was there for 3 days, a week, or a month in that same holding cell. Just to be released and sent back as soon as I got out. I wasn’t even sure why this was going on until later (which I found out were 9 misdemeanors of probation violation). I’m not even sure how I violated my probation as I had a metal impairment I was born with, I did not understand the world.
At this time, on my last lock up with the probation school, they asked my mother to lock me up in juvenile hall. I remember her driving me there, which was the worse feeling in the world. She bought me a carrot cake (my favorite dessert) right before she handed me over to the juvenile detention center. I spent another month in that same holding cell. I cried and yelled for what I think was a month. Banging on the doors with no answer other than to let me use the restroom, then it was right back into that empty brick room with no sunlight. I was finally moved to unit 100 where they offered a chance to be a kitchen KP. I spent 8-9 months there not knowing when I would be released. Every time I would go to court (it was every two weeks) I would ask what’s going on. I was never told when I would be able to leave, and I was told to plead guilty time and time again. Everyday for those 8-9 months I listened 40-50 times a day for a slight beep from the intercom hoping that I would hear: Shovlin for release. Every day those 40-50 times went without an answer. I thought I was going crazy. I would run to my door and listen to realize there wasn’t a beep at all at times. I gave up and thought I would spend the rest of my life there in this miserable hole.
On the last day I was in the holding cell before court one last time. I was seen in a different area by my attorney. She said I was guilty of 9 misdemeanors of probation violation (equaling 3 felonies) and the two original felonies from when I was first arrested. This gave the court enough to send me to court room 9 (which at the time was a CYA courtroom) where they judge you 15 years to life. Fear and dread set in on me. I spent all day in that holding cell crying cringed in a corner on the bench. Sometimes someone would come to kick me (another inmate) but it mattered little since I was filled with despair and confusion. Right before a new attorney came to me (or it might have been a judge) I spent the last 5 minutes smashing my head on the concrete. While I was being attended for my battered head the attorney or judge came and sat next to me. It was the first time in a 3-4 year period where I was treated like a human.
They sat there with my head on their lap “petting” my head and telling me things are going to get better. At this time (it was the last part of the day) I was moved to court room 4 (social services). I was put in there confused and drained. The lady judge sat down and looked at the probation office and the DA and asked, “What are the 9 misdemeanors for” they explained. She was appalled and said, “I will cancel these misdemeanors, now onto the felonies. What did the felonies involve?” The probation and DA explained the scenario. Again she was appalled and stated, “For you to push these crimes on a child who apparently has trauma disgusts me. I wave all charges and allow the youth a onetime chance to better his life.” She looked at me and asked if I understood, and I told her no. She told me she will make everything disappear, my crimes and probation, if I pass the RTS facility called: Helicon.
 


scubasteve1228

Junior Member
Story continued:

Now Helicon has been shut down from my understanding due to me complaining about the abuse we had firsthand from the facility as a whole, but I will get to that later. While all this time I spent in Juvenile hall I had little or no schooling, two hours a day sunlight time, and cavity searches daily. I felt less than human, so on those terms I agreed to what she was offering me. I was released the next day to Helicon. It was here that the first part of that facilities name really hit me “Hel” because it was exactly that “Hell”.
Helicon had a reputation for rehabilitating teens. But what nobody knew was that how they went about it was in-humane. We were all heavily medicated me: liquid codone, Zoloft, welbutrin, prozak, and lithium. These were all given to me. I was in a zombie state, not being able to cognitively think or control my actions. I will not go into great detail but at this place we were physically and sexually abused. We were brainwashed daily (read from a handbook word for word before using the restroom, eating, going outside, walking in a line, and many other things). We could not look at anybody, if we were caught looking at someone we would be restrained. We could not touch anybody; if we did we would be restrained. We had a constant arm distance from everyone at all times, and we always looked at the ground. We would be held in a closet they called the “time-out” room for sometimes 8 hours to the whole day with nothing to eat or being able to use the restroom. There were doctors on site so if we would get hurt they would not take us to the hospital, but instead would treat us there (I think this was to help protect them from showing signs of abuse to us kids).
When the facility finally shut down after I talked to licensing, I was released home. I had none of my problems fixed, and had many others added. After sometime I tried to commit suicide (I wasn’t used to the outside world and I believe I was institutionalized). I was sent to a mental facility in West Covina, L.A. After being there for a bit I was sent to the last group home I stayed in. I went to Moreno Valley High School for a bit. After my extensive time in those horrible places, I kind of gave up hope on life. I thought I would eventually end up back in there. So, I tried many different things I never tried before at this point. I decided to steal booze and drink, and smoke pot. I figured if I was going back I might as well experience what the big deal was. I was eventually caught with pot on me. I was finger printed as a minor, and was told I was going back to jail again. My mother in her desperation to save what little bit of her child was left, decided to ask social services and the court to emancipate me. They did, and I earned my GED and was told to go to college in Tulsa, Ok. I never got treatment for my original problems nor was I taught how to deal with life.
After my emancipation, I was taken to the airport, given 45 dollars in my pocket and told to have a good life. I arrived in Tulsa, Ok. Bewildered. I had no one there. I had nobody to call. I stood with my suitcase of several clothes in the lobby waiting. I just waited for what was hours. I finally had the security guard come to me and ask me, “What are you doing here? Where’s your parents?” I cried for a bit, and told him, “I’m here for school I don’t know what I’m doing.”
He asked me my school and escorted me to the campus. There the campus set me up with various living arrangements and signed me up for school. I was so scared that I went to school and finished. I didn’t even know what to do with my life at that point. Once I finished I pretty much drifted through life as a drug dealer, prostitution, and various meager jobs just to live. I was always homeless and never had a place to call home, until I met my wife today. I told her a bit of my story, and out of sympathy for me she called her dad. We married right away, her dad got me a job roofing, and I stayed working my hardest in my life to hide myself and provide for her. After about 3 years of our marriage everything I tried to push aside started to come out. We struggled with our marriage for 2 years after that. One day I broke, and after my episode I decided to get help. I was afraid of myself and of the “system” to try and confront my problems, because I have had such a traumatic life, but my love for my wife was stronger. I finally was able to seek help, and until recently (3 months ago) I have never told anyone about this before. I did not understand the abuse and horrible trauma I have faced in my life. I am still very ignorant over everyday life. I don’t know about the legal system, and I still don’t know about how to live. I am still an immature kid who barely knows what reality is. I’m starting to understand myself and my problems, but I have a long tremendous road ahead of me. The hate and disgust I feel over myself, and the situation that occurred to me plagues me daily still. I wake up in those horrible places still fearing for my life and what will become of it. After talking about it finally from just 3 months ago, my psychologist, psychiatrist, and neuropsychologist are telling me that I have deep PTSD from the past that I have to confront. That what happened to me is horrible and inhumane. I have never told anyone this story not evens my psychologist to the extent that this report has. This is the first time I have briefly described the horrible atrocity that occurred to me.
I am hoping that I can find someone to help me with finding some redemption and compensation for how hard my life has been, and how hard my life will continue to be; because I am stuck with this dark nightmare for the rest of my life.
I still have many details about abuse, rape, and various other occurrences during these times, but I am still slowly trying to put the puzzle together. I am so ignorant over legality issues and what to do that I don’t even know where to begin or who to blame for all of this.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Your post is entirely too long. This forum does not provide attorney referrals. You can check the San Diego County Bar Association (https://www.sdcba.org/) or the California State Bar for attorney referrals. Best of luck to you.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I gave it a good try and got about 3/4 of the way through. I have to say that I can't believe a word of it. You have so many inaccuracies and inconsistencies that your story is simply not believable.
 

single317dad

Senior Member
I gave it a good try and got about 3/4 of the way through. I have to say that I can't believe a word of it. You have so many inaccuracies and inconsistencies that your story is simply not believable.
He lost me at "15-life for ditching school".
 

scubasteve1228

Junior Member
confused?

So you don't believe it because it's inaccurate and there are inaccuracies? How do you find it inaccurate it is what happened. Yes I gave a summarized version, but to simply say you don't believe it would be quite obnoxious of you to say. I have called the bar association many time, and had many referrals to other hotlines to find an attorney to seek it out, but they keep telling me there are no attorneys that would help with suing any of those government entities. Maybe you can clarify what you mean by being inaccurate: is it the fact that I was incarcerated over 9 misdemeanors? Just because you think it's unbelievable doesn't mean it didn't happen. You don't even know how hard it is for me to expose myself to this level of degree, then get ridiculed about it like that? Then people wonder why mentally unstable people like me who have been abused go "postal". Sorry but your referral to the bar associations is little help due to the fact I have already been there (they only cover 4% of the lawyers in San Diego) which they said none would take that case. Don't be snooty and ignorant this situation is 100% real and you shouldn't take it lightly.
 

single317dad

Senior Member
So you don't believe it because it's inaccurate and there are inaccuracies? How do you find it inaccurate it is what happened. Yes I gave a summarized version, but to simply say you don't believe it would be quite obnoxious of you to say. I have called the bar association many time, and had many referrals to other hotlines to find an attorney to seek it out, but they keep telling me there are no attorneys that would help with suing any of those government entities. Maybe you can clarify what you mean by being inaccurate: is it the fact that I was incarcerated over 9 misdemeanors? Just because you think it's unbelievable doesn't mean it didn't happen. You don't even know how hard it is for me to expose myself to this level of degree, then get ridiculed about it like that? Then people wonder why mentally unstable people like me who have been abused go "postal". Sorry but your referral to the bar associations is little help due to the fact I have already been there (they only cover 4% of the lawyers in San Diego) which they said none would take that case. Don't be snooty and ignorant this situation is 100% real and you shouldn't take it lightly.
If the Bar Association can't help you, lace your shoes up tight and start knocking on the doors of attorneys. If you still can't find anyone to represent you, there's probably a reason.

Please continue the therapy.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
So you don't believe it because it's inaccurate and there are inaccuracies? How do you find it inaccurate it is what happened. Yes I gave a summarized version, but to simply say you don't believe it would be quite obnoxious of you to say. I have called the bar association many time, and had many referrals to other hotlines to find an attorney to seek it out, but they keep telling me there are no attorneys that would help with suing any of those government entities. Maybe you can clarify what you mean by being inaccurate: is it the fact that I was incarcerated over 9 misdemeanors? Just because you think it's unbelievable doesn't mean it didn't happen. You don't even know how hard it is for me to expose myself to this level of degree, then get ridiculed about it like that? Then people wonder why mentally unstable people like me who have been abused go "postal". Sorry but your referral to the bar associations is little help due to the fact I have already been there (they only cover 4% of the lawyers in San Diego) which they said none would take that case. Don't be snooty and ignorant this situation is 100% real and you shouldn't take it lightly.
Juveniles don't get "15-life"
Juveniles in your situation don't get emancipated.

Those are just the two that pop in to my mind first...
 

scubasteve1228

Junior Member
"Juveniles don't get "15-life" Juveniles in your situation don't get emancipated."

They do get 15-life for 3 felonies which 9 misdemeanors is equivalent to 3 felonies. Not to mention they charged me with two felonies (intent to cause bodily harm and assault with a deadly weapon) which those last two were from my probation officer seeing me rush through a screen door and it scratched my mother's leg as I ran from him. So, they went to the DA spent a year going to court and I was transferred to court room 9 (cya courtroom California Youth Authority) and they were trying to convict me (charge me as an adult) of these crimes. Which they were doing over a whole year's period of time (which being 12 I didn't know they were doing). And I was emancipated from the state at 17 (meaning they gave me limited adult legality at age 17, but I was still a dependent of the state of California until the age of 21). Yes they do that! Look I'm not looking for a pitty party, nor am I trying to hear dumb advice like: keep trying attorneys. I would prefer to find legitimate advice about what category this would go under to try and find the right attorney. Or, maybe how I can go about trying to pursue the situation while trying to find an attorney before the statute of limitations runs out. Would be great to have advice on those things. If you are replying to ridicule or any other situation you might want to reconsider what you are doing in this forum, because I am just trying to find some help with this situation.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
They do get 15-life for 3 felonies which 9 misdemeanors is equivalent to 3 felonies. Not to mention they charged me with two felonies (intent to cause bodily harm and assault with a deadly weapon) which those last two were from my probation officer seeing me rush through a screen door and it scratched my mother's leg as I ran from him. So, they went to the DA spent a year going to court and I was transferred to court room 9 (cya courtroom California Youth Authority) and they were trying to convict me (charge me as an adult) of these crimes. Which they were doing over a whole year's period of time (which being 12 I didn't know they were doing). And I was emancipated from the state at 17 (meaning they gave me limited adult legality at age 17, but I was still a dependent of the state of California until the age of 21). Yes they do that! Look I'm not looking for a pitty party, nor am I trying to hear dumb advice like: keep trying attorneys. I would prefer to find legitimate advice about what category this would go under to try and find the right attorney. Or, maybe how I can go about trying to pursue the situation while trying to find an attorney before the statute of limitations runs out. Would be great to have advice on those things. If you are replying to ridicule or any other situation you might want to reconsider what you are doing in this forum, because I am just trying to find some help with this situation.
Assuming that your tale is 100% true...

Your matter is beyond the scope of this forum. I would suggest that you continue to seek professional help.

ETA: I suppose this applies even if your tale is 100% false.
 

Ladyback1

Senior Member
OP---you mention a few times, in your novella, that you were not in touch with reality during some of these times.

Is it possible that some/most of the things didn't happen to you, but happened in your head?

I'm not saying that you didn't experience some sort of trauma, and maybe maltreatment; I'm saying that your tale is too fantastical, and some of the things you detail would have probably killed you. (the dosage of the two drugs is high enough to kill an adult, much less a kid!)

I hope you continue seeking treatment. Concentrate on YOU. Get yourself on real firm and stable mental and emotional ground before you dive into what would be a long and awful legal battle.
 

scubasteve1228

Junior Member
"all in my head"?

I know you weren't being rude, but no it is not all in my head as I have all the documents from my past. No I don't remember the actual dosage, but I have no need to as it's documented. So yes they gave me that much medication, but I was a complete zombie. Just because it is hard to believe doesn't mean it's not true.... Why are people replying if it's true, or that it's fake. Look I looked up forums under civil litigation legal aid, and it came to this forum. I decided to post to find help with legal aid, not people questioning if it's all in head, or that it's make-believe. What is disorienting when I refer to it, is that it's a question of "was this actually legal for them to do" or "would someone else be traumatized by this"? I get disoriented thinking that maybe I'm making this into too big of a deal, and there are some parts I CAN'T REMEMBER not parts that I make up.... I'm giving this another day to actually hear some real help and taking it down. Just disappointed that people would react like you guys have.
 

quincy

Senior Member
... it's a question of "was this actually legal for them to do" or "would someone else be traumatized by this"? ...
To answer the specific questions from your post that I have quoted above: No, it would not be legal for "them to do" all that you claim has been done. Yes, I believe someone else would be traumatized by all that you say you have experienced.

The reason you came upon this site when you searched for "civil litigation legal aid" is because this site is a good one for getting free answers to legal questions and for getting free assistance with legal concerns. Unfortunately, no one on this site is able to provide you with the personal service your situation requires.

Because your described situation falls outside the scope of what this forum offers, forum members have recommended that you seek professional assistance in your area. If San Diego does not have attorneys who will or can handle your concerns, perhaps you can expand your search to attorneys outside the San Diego area. Check the California State Bar Association. You might also try contacting the closest chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, to see if you can find help there.

Good luck.
 

xylene

Senior Member
I'm sorry you experienced deep trauma at the hands of a step parent and the California juvenile justice system.

Talk it out, talk with survivors. There are many.

An assessment: Your post reads like some who may have organic mental illness, and that is ok.

You are ok and and a worthwhile human being.
 
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