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Old 09-21-2009, 05:21 AM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Georgia

I am unsure if this is even the correct forum for this, and while the issue may seem trivial, it is of some personal importance. For quite some time, I was a member of an online community. After a time, I was removed from said online community, however they maintain my member profile (viewable by all the public) including my real name and photographs of myself (similar to Facebook).

Am I within my legal rights requesting that they remove my name and photographs?
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:29 AM
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You're within your rights to request it.
THey are within their rights to ignore you.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:19 AM
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Am I within my legal rights requesting that they remove my name and photographs?
No one can answer without reviewing the 'Terms of Service' that you accepted when you joined their website. Some TOS's state that all submitted content becomes the property of the site operator. Some say that the content remains the property of the submitter. Some don't say anything at all.

If this specific TOS says they own it, then you can't force them to remove it (at least without a VERY expensive court order).
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:21 AM
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JETX, I thank you for your helpful post! Assuming their TOS makes no claim as to the ownership of submitted material, where then does this leave me if they still decline?

I also found your signature interesting as well. Why is the birth certificate Obama produced not considered good enough? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter.


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Alas I found this in the Terms of Service. This does not seem as if it bodes well for me.


"...does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Service. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service, you grant [redacted] the following worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license: that any Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service, the perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

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Old 09-21-2009, 03:26 PM
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JETX, I thank you for your helpful post!
Of course, you're welcome!!

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I also found your signature interesting as well. Why is the birth certificate Obama produced not considered good enough? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter.
Most states, especially those that have 'native issues' (like Hawaii Native Lands, American Indians, etc.) allow someone to file a 'record of live birth'. This is to help to establish their 'native rights'. In fact, Hawaiian law in 1961 allowed 'recording' a live birth for up to a year after the actual birth. This was done simply by walking into a local clerks office and signing an affidavit. That is what was done in Obama's case.

There is a LOT of information shown on a 'real' birth certificate (titled 'Certificate of Live Birth'); such as the name of the hospital, date and time of birth, the doctors name and signature, names and race of both parents, and the weight and length of the infant.

A sample of a REAL 'Certificate of Live Birth' that was issued the day AFTER Obama claims his birth can be found online at:
[url=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105347]Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates[/url]

You will see that it has far more information than the document provided by Obama.
Another difference you will see is that the REAL certificate is titled "'Certificate of Live Birth', 'certificate' is in PRESENT tense.... as something that happened at the time.
The document submitted by Obama is titled 'Certification of Live Birth'... in the past tense... as a certificate that was issued AFTER the fact. In this case, LONG after. The Obama 'certificate' was printed on a computer, very likely immediately after this became an issue.... and the Obama staff asked the Hawaii Dept of Health to print it for them.
The 'real' certificate was filled in with a typewriter and LOTS of handwriting.

And of course, the above doesn't even raise the other issues, such as:
1) Obama and his half-sister contradicting each other on what hospital he was 'born' in.
Obama claims he was born at 'Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children' while his half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, says he was born at 'Queens Hospital'.
Neither hospital has records of he or his mother admittance.
[url=http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/sowhich-hawaiian-hospital-was-barry-born-in/]So…which Hawaiian hospital was barry born in? Citizens Against Pro-Obama Media Bias[/url]

2) Claims by his grandmother and his uncle that they were at his birth in Kenya.

Here is MY opinion as to what LIKELY happened:
It is believed that Obama's mother and father traveled to Kenya in 1961 during the summer break between classes. OF course, no records of travel exist for 40+ years ago, but this is supporting by statements made by Obama's paternal grandmother and her family.
At the time, doctors did not recommend that pregnant women fly in the latter months of their pregnancy as it was believed the lower pressure in the plane could induce labor. The airlines simply refused to carry a late-pregnancy passenger without a doctors 'permission'. Though very likely the intent to be born in Hawaii, Ann Dunham simply was not able to fly out of Kenya and Obama was born there. Once she got to Hawaii (after Obama was born in Kenya) she went to the Hawaii Dept of Health and filed a NOTICE of live birth. That notice of live birth was then picked up by the local newspaper who put it in the paper.... as they did for every other NOTICE that was recorded by the Health Department.

In closing, this ENTIRE issue could be resolved if Obama simply provided a real 'long-form' birth certificate. The cost is about $12!!! Far cheaper than the HUGE amount that he has spent (from campaign funds) trying to avoid this issue.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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