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07-30-2009, 04:06 PM
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| | | selling software "bots" for online games
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
California
Hello, a friend of mine is interested in creating a website to sell bots.
The bots that she is going to create are not going to exploit any online website or hack them. Instead, it will send POST data (like filling out a form to login to a website) automatically when the user clicks the button on a program that he/she buys from our website. And she wants to know if it is legal to sell these kinds of bots?
thank you for your replies. |
08-01-2009, 02:06 AM
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| | | Bump, seems like it's unlisted.. |
08-07-2009, 04:46 PM
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negative, ghostwriter. u need permission from the site he/she is pulling the data from, which i presume will involve some enormous monetary funding from the developer in order to appease their appetite for generosity in giving you that approval. |
08-07-2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyymiles  negative, ghostwriter. u need permission from the site he/she is pulling the data from, which i presume will involve some enormous monetary funding from the developer in order to appease their appetite for generosity in giving you that approval. | Im not sure if that was directed towards me but as far as i interpet it i don't use these "bots" i develop them.
Would that be against the law? |
08-08-2009, 01:06 AM
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| | | well, i guess it really depends on what sites you're going to be auto-filling the data for. my opinion is the only real help i have so with that I would say if you're thinking about anything like social networking sites ie. facebook, myspace, bebo, hi5, linkedin, etc. u can probably forget in the mere fact that it would violate most website's Terms of Service. then again, people do this everyday with the creation of iphone apps an the like. its just a matter of how much time and effort goes into taking these developers to court. if its a smaller site you may be ok. either way i would be sure to get explicit consent from each website and user you are linking to. as there are no real internet laws governing the use of information, however you could have someone taking you to court based on an invasion of privacy. these types of things are easy to market, but can be very dangerous if the proper precautions are not taken. |
08-08-2009, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyymiles well, i guess it really depends on what sites you're going to be auto-filling the data for. my opinion is the only real help i have so with that I would say if you're thinking about anything like social networking sites ie. facebook, myspace, bebo, hi5, linkedin, etc. u can probably forget in the mere fact that it would violate most website's Terms of Service. then again, people do this everyday with the creation of iphone apps an the like. its just a matter of how much time and effort goes into taking these developers to court. if its a smaller site you may be ok. either way i would be sure to get explicit consent from each website and user you are linking to. as there are no real internet laws governing the use of information, however you could have someone taking you to court based on an invasion of privacy. these types of things are easy to market, but can be very dangerous if the proper precautions are not taken. | thanks for your quick replies!
So even if i sell my bots for "gaiaonline.com" for educationaly purposes only, this would still be against the law?
Im not quite sure, and im not so good with laws and such.
Is this site legal?:[url]http://www.program4.us/[/url]
she says she wants to make something similar. |
08-08-2009, 04:09 PM
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| | | no problem. Ur best best is to discuss your intentions with the site's moderators, if they have no issue with what you're doing then you should be fine. If you cant talk to the moderators about what you want to sell, even if your main purpose is in fact educational, you cant use that as excuse in court if someone gets upset with the serivce your 'bots' provide. Not saying I believe you have underlying intentions, I just think it's hard to find a happy meduim in the service for which you are trying to obtain a legal defintion. I think you'd have to describe in greater detail for me exactly what purpose the bot serves as tho you were writing the site moderators for me to give you a more accurate projection of what response you should expect. |
08-08-2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyymiles no problem. Ur best best is to discuss your intentions with the site's moderators, if they have no issue with what you're doing then you should be fine. If you cant talk to the moderators about what you want to sell, even if your main purpose is in fact educational, you cant use that as excuse in court if someone gets upset with the serivce your 'bots' provide. Not saying I believe you have underlying intentions, I just think it's hard to find a happy meduim in the service for which you are trying to obtain a legal defintion. I think you'd have to describe in greater detail for me exactly what purpose the bot serves as tho you were writing the site moderators for me to give you a more accurate projection of what response you should expect. | Well as i tried to explain before, our bot would manilulate post / get methods as if a normal users does to get tasks done at a fast rate then a human can, effortlessly. I'll try and talk to a site moderator, also what if we were to sell the 'source' it's self rather then the executable file? |
08-09-2009, 12:01 PM
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| | | source code = executable, without the action. still need to get permission first. |
08-09-2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyymiles source code = executable, without the action. still need to get permission first. | Permission from the site it'self in which the bot's will preform it's tasks on?
That's never going to happen.. |
08-09-2009, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ihavequestions2 Permission from the site it'self in which the bot's will preform it's tasks on?
That's never going to happen.. | probably right about that  | |
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