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    diagTronics is offline Junior Member
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    Terms & Agreement (legal font size) ??

    What is the name of your state? CA

    I have a product that I am selling in North America. My business is headquarted in California. On the Purchase Agreement/ Invoice form for this product, on the back is the Terms & Conditions (1-Year Limited Warranty).

    My questions is:
    In order for the Terms & Conditions to be considered a legal document, is there a law/rule mandating the font size it must be in?

    Please elaborate in your answers. Thank you in advance!
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    In order for the Terms & Conditions to be considered a legal document, is there a law/rule mandating the font size it must be in?
    No.

    Please elaborate in your answers.
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    I've never seen any law/regulation that dictates the font size of a term/clause. However, I have seen laws/regulations that dictate that a term or clause must be conspicuous. When that is the case, I usually bold the term/clause (and I always use 12 font).

    I don't know if that's necessary for a warranty clause in CA, though.

    (NOTE: It may be necessary to limit various implied warranties)
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    Isn't there a UCC code that mandates size of font and/or color and/or contrast, and/or something???

    I looked, but I think it was way too small for me to read!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairisfair View Post
    Isn't there a UCC code that mandates size of font and/or color and/or contrast, and/or something???

    I looked, but I think it was way too small for me to read!!!
    Good call on the UCC. Here's a couple relevant parts:

    2-316. Exclusion or Modification of Warranties.

    (1) Words or conduct relevant to the creation of an express warranty and words or conduct tending to negate or limit warranty shall be construed wherever reasonable as consistent with each other; but subject to Section 2-202, negation or limitation is inoperative to the extent that such construction is unreasonable.

    (2) Subject to subsection (3), to exclude or modify the implied warranty of merchantability or any part of it in a consumer contract the language must be in a record, be conspicuous, and state "The seller undertakes no responsibility for the quality of the goods except as otherwise provided in this contract," and in any other contract the language must mention merchantability and in case of a record must be conspicuous. Subject to subsection (3), to exclude or modify the implied warranty of fitness, the exclusion must be in a record and be conspicuous. Language to exclude all implied warranties of fitness in a consumer contract must state "The seller assumes no responsibility that the goods will be fit for any particular purpose for which you may be buying these goods, except as otherwise provided in the contract," and in any other contract the language is sufficient if it states, for example, that "There are no warranties that extend beyond the description on the face hereof." Language that satisfies the requirements of this subsection for the exclusion or modification of a warranty in a consumer contract also satisfies the requirements for any other contract.

    (3) Notwithstanding subsection (2)

    (a) unless the circumstances indicate otherwise, all implied warranties are excluded by expressions like "as is", "with all faults" or other language that in common understanding calls the buyer's attention to the exclusion of warranties, makes plain that there is no implied warranty, and, in a consumer contract evidenced by a record, is set forth conspicuously in the record;

    (b) if the buyer before entering into the contract has examined the goods or the sample or model as fully as desired or has refused to examine the goods after a demand by the seller there is no implied warranty with regard to defects that an examination in the circumstances should have revealed to the buyer; and

    (c) an implied warranty may also be excluded or modified by course of dealing or course of performance or usage of trade.

    (4) Remedies for breach of warranty may be limited in accordance with Sections 2-718 and 2-719.




    What is conspicuous?

    2-103. Definitions and Index of Definitions.

    (b) "Conspicuous", with reference to a term, means so written, displayed, or presented that a reasonable person against which it is to operate ought to have noticed it. A term in an electronic record intended to evoke a response by an electronic agent is conspicuous if it is presented in a form that would enable a reasonably configured electronic agent to take it into account or react to it without review of the record by an individual. Whether a term is "conspicuous" or not is a decision for the court. Conspicuous terms include the following:

    (i) for a person:

    (A) a heading in capitals equal to or greater in size than the surrounding text, or in contrasting type, font, or color to the surrounding text of the same or lesser size; and

    (B) language in the body of a record or display in larger type than the surrounding text, or in contrasting type, font, or color to the surrounding text of the same size, or set off from surrounding text of the same size by symbols or other marks that call attention to the language; and

    (ii) for a person or an electronic agent, a term that is so placed in a record or display that the person or electronic agent may not proceed without taking action with respect to the particular term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoredAtty View Post
    Good call on the UCC. Here's a couple relevant parts:

    2-316. Exclusion or Modification of Warranties.

    (1) Words or conduct relevant to the creation of an express warranty and words or conduct tending to negate or limit warranty shall be construed wherever reasonable as consistent with each other; but subject to Section 2-202, negation or limitation is inoperative to the extent that such construction is unreasonable.

    (2) Subject to subsection (3), to exclude or modify the implied warranty of merchantability or any part of it in a consumer contract the language must be in a record, be conspicuous, and state "The seller undertakes no responsibility for the quality of the goods except as otherwise provided in this contract," and in any other contract the language must mention merchantability and in case of a record must be conspicuous. Subject to subsection (3), to exclude or modify the implied warranty of fitness, the exclusion must be in a record and be conspicuous. Language to exclude all implied warranties of fitness in a consumer contract must state "The seller assumes no responsibility that the goods will be fit for any particular purpose for which you may be buying these goods, except as otherwise provided in the contract," and in any other contract the language is sufficient if it states, for example, that "There are no warranties that extend beyond the description on the face hereof." Language that satisfies the requirements of this subsection for the exclusion or modification of a warranty in a consumer contract also satisfies the requirements for any other contract.

    (3) Notwithstanding subsection (2)

    (a) unless the circumstances indicate otherwise, all implied warranties are excluded by expressions like "as is", "with all faults" or other language that in common understanding calls the buyer's attention to the exclusion of warranties, makes plain that there is no implied warranty, and, in a consumer contract evidenced by a record, is set forth conspicuously in the record;

    (b) if the buyer before entering into the contract has examined the goods or the sample or model as fully as desired or has refused to examine the goods after a demand by the seller there is no implied warranty with regard to defects that an examination in the circumstances should have revealed to the buyer; and

    (c) an implied warranty may also be excluded or modified by course of dealing or course of performance or usage of trade.

    (4) Remedies for breach of warranty may be limited in accordance with Sections 2-718 and 2-719.




    What is conspicuous?

    2-103. Definitions and Index of Definitions.

    (b) "Conspicuous", with reference to a term, means so written, displayed, or presented that a reasonable person against which it is to operate ought to have noticed it. A term in an electronic record intended to evoke a response by an electronic agent is conspicuous if it is presented in a form that would enable a reasonably configured electronic agent to take it into account or react to it without review of the record by an individual. Whether a term is "conspicuous" or not is a decision for the court. Conspicuous terms include the following:

    (i) for a person:

    (A) a heading in capitals equal to or greater in size than the surrounding text, or in contrasting type, font, or color to the surrounding text of the same or lesser size; and

    (B) language in the body of a record or display in larger type than the surrounding text, or in contrasting type, font, or color to the surrounding text of the same size, or set off from surrounding text of the same size by symbols or other marks that call attention to the language; and

    (ii) for a person or an electronic agent, a term that is so placed in a record or display that the person or electronic agent may not proceed without taking action with respect to the particular term.
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