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Wassdeet

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I am a writer and am considering writing a children's story of a cat called Bellini who hangs around a posh hotel in France. Someone named him Bellini after a drink they have at the bar. However, Bellini has many different products, including a composer in 1700's, baby carriages and a lot of other merchandise.
Can I use the name for the cat and create "new adventures" and not worry about someone suing me?
 


quincy

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There will always be the risk of a lawsuit. There is no way to prevent someone from suing you, whether a suit has merit or not.

That said, having your story focus on a cat named "Bellini" should not have any greater risk of attracting a lawsuit than any other story would. You should just not use a Bellini product or service as a marketing tool for your story.

If you plan on self-publishing, you may wish to contact a publishing law professional for a review and possible editing of your manuscript, just to make sure you are on relatively safe legal ground by reducing obvious areas of concern, and taking out insurance to cover the costs of a suit (or checking to see if your current insurance would cover the costs of a suit) if someone decides to sue despite your best efforts to avoid ticking anyone off, might be smart.

Good luck with your writing.
 

swalsh411

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You should be OK.

What you have here is a classic example of a non-unique copyrighted name. Another example is "mustang". Most people probably think of the Ford Mustang however Ford does not have exclusive rights to that word. There is the mustang guitar, the Mustang Ranch, or the P-51 Mustang airplane, to name a few. Or it could just refer to the animal.

Conversely, "Viagra" is a unique copyright. It's a made up word and didn't exist before pfizer copyrighted it. You could not name a character in a book "Viagra" and expect not to get sued.
 

quincy

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I probably should have made it clear in my first reply: This would NOT be a copyright issue at all. Names cannot be copyrighted. What you need to worry about with names is trademark law, not copyright law.

swalsh has provided some interesting examples of trademarks but the information he provided is not entirely correct and his Viagra statement is not correct as worded. Viagra may be a unique trademark, entitling it to the greatest protection allowed under trademark law, but I could still use the trademark to describe the product, and I could use the trademark as the name for a cat (not that I'd want to :)).

If a name is trademarked, there are certain precautions that must be taken to ensure the use of the trademark does not infringe on a trademark holder's rights. The major precaution that needs to be taken is to make sure a consumer would not be confused into thinking your use of a name is in any way connected to (affiliated with, endorsed by) the trademark holder.

Using a trademark as a name for a cat (ie, the cat is named Hilton or Ford or Chanel) is generally not a problem. If the cat stays at the Hilton, drives a Ford vehicle or carries a Chanel purse, that is generally not a problem, either, because trademarks can be used in a descriptive way.

However, a character in a story should avoid disparaging a trademarked product or service (ie, saying that the Hilton has bed bugs, the Ford has poor gas mileage, the Chanel purse has shoddy seams - if none of those statements are provably true). Provable facts about a business, product or service can be used, but invented derogatory or defamatory claims should not be included in the text of any story. A lawsuit would be a likely result of such claims.

(Late addition): Although naming an animal character "Bellini" (or Ford, or Chanel, or Hilton, or Viagra) would generally not be a problem, there is LIKELY to be a problem naming an animal after an already trademarked animal. For example, naming a dog Lassie or RinTinTin, or a mouse Mickey, or a cat Felix, could be seen as trading off these famous trademarked names and could result in an infringement action.

Although the last paragraph of my first post was poorly constructed and a bit rambling, I recommended in it that a pre-publication review be made of any manuscript to eliminate any problem areas and to reduce the legal risks. I still recommend this. There is no way for a forum post to cover all areas of legal concern, especially when it is not possible to read and review the text. An attorney in your area can read the text and locate areas that may need revising.

Good luck with your children's story, Wassdeet. :)
 
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FlyingRon

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The term Bellini as the name of a drink stems from the 17th century, invented allegedly by Giuseppe Cipriani. To my knowledge Cipriani SA the long descendent corporation of Giuseppe's hotel business, does NOT assert trademarks on that name. Perhaps others do, but it's unlikely that a cat in a story is going to engender any trademark infringement. Even if you named the cat "Jack Daniels" (which is very much an active trademark), I doubt you have an infringement liability.
 

swalsh411

Senior Member
You are absolutely correct I should have said trademark not copyright. The rest of what I posted is still accurate I believe.
 

quincy

Senior Member
You should be OK.

What you have here is a classic example of a non-unique copyrighted name. Another example is "mustang". Most people probably think of the Ford Mustang however Ford does not have exclusive rights to that word. There is the mustang guitar, the Mustang Ranch, or the P-51 Mustang airplane, to name a few. Or it could just refer to the animal.

Conversely, "Viagra" is a unique copyright. It's a made up word and didn't exist before pfizer copyrighted it. You could not name a character in a book "Viagra" and expect not to get sued.
Well. . . .the "you should be OK" is good. :)

For your "mustang" examples, Ford may not have an exclusive use of the word mustang, but Ford has exclusive use of the word mustang to identify a car style, and Ford can prevent all others from using the word as the name for a car. Because Mustang is a Ford trademark, you must be careful how you use it, just as you have to be careful how you use any trademark. Because Mustang has gained a secondary meaning in the marketplace to identify a type of car, it is afforded the greatest protection allowed under trademark law - as the word applies to cars.

That said, you could name a cat "Mustang" and probably not run into any problems.

The same applies to the word "Viagra." You can name a cat "Viagra" and you can use the word "Viagra" to describe the product or, as we are doing here, to identify the product we are talking about. No lawsuit should result - although the use of any trademark in any manner can attract the attention of the trademark holder and his lawyers and could result in a threatening letter. ;)

No one else can name their same or similar product or service using the same or similar trademark as one already in use in commerce without legal risk, although the same or similar trademarks can exist peacefully. Trademark law centers on consumer confusion and, if a consumer is likely to be confused by the dual use of a name, an infringement suit by the first user of the mark against the second user of the mark is also likely.

I can (probably) name a hardware store "McDonald's" without a problem but I cannot name a fast food restaurant (or really any restaurant) "McDonald's" without (great) risk of a lawsuit.

Legal actions spawned by infringement of trademarks are much different than legal actions spawned by copyrights. For one thing, there are no statutory damages awarded under trademark law. A trademark owner could potentially prevent further use of their mark by another and a trademark owner could potentially collect money damages from the infringer. An award of monetary damages will usually depend on the amount of provable actual harm suffered by the trademark owner (provable profits made by infringer, provable losses suffered by the trademark holder). In addition, under some circumstances, there can be an award of punitive damages, fines and attorney fees.

You also have dilution of trademarks, unfair competition claims, etc., that can be filed against a trademark infringer by a trademark holder.

So, the bottom line is that Wassdeet will probably not run into any problems naming his cat character "Bellini," based strictly on what he has posted here. But he should have his children's story reviewed prior to publication to make sure he is not stepping on anyone else's rights in any way.
 
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KeyWestDan

Junior Member
No chance.

Much words about much of nothing.

Sure, anyone can sue anyone. Doing a frivolous trademark action in federal court is a good way to pay big sanctions.

Is there a chance of a valid cause of action for trademark infringment in the described situation? NO. Not a chance.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Possible Chance

KeyWestDan, you apparently zipped through this forum last night, adding bits and pieces to threads here and there. You should probably refrain from posting to threads where you have no real knowledge.

In this thread, there is NO WAY to make a definitive statement without a review of all facts.
 

HawaiiSteve

Junior Member
Just use a differrent name.

The easiest, safest way for a writer/author to avoid any and all possibilities of infringing on any trademarks or copyrights is to be creative. Since the cat is fiction, then make up some other good sounding "famous" drink to name the cat after. Still, do your research to make sure that you haven't "made up" something that actually exists :)
 
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