cigarettes

[mejoejoeiam]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? al. I have been addicted to cigarettes for 30 yrs. they are probably more addictive than cocaine or alcohol. and will kill me sooner than later. I am sick of trying to quit over and over because this is rarely accomplished. I feel like its time to recover the money that has been stolen from me a pack at a time and to prepare for what im sure will be a slow painful death in my near future. but im not willing to wait until im dead to get some justice.

[Antigone*of*Greece]

Originally Posted by mejoejoeiam

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? al. I have been addicted to cigarettes for 30 yrs. they are probably more addictive than cocaine or alcohol. and will kill me sooner than later. I am sick of trying to quit over and over because this is rarely accomplished. I feel like its time to recover the money that has been stolen from me a pack at a time and to prepare for what im sure will be a slow painful death in my near future. but im not willing to wait until im dead to get some justice.

US LAW only

[racer72]

The effects and consequences of tobacco use has been known for well over 60 years, long before you chose to start smoking. It is also your choice to not quit. No one to blame but yourself.

racer72, ex-smoker for 16 years and proud of it..

[Stevef]

Originally Posted by Wirelessany1

US LAW only

Isn't 'al' short for Alabama?

[FlyingRon]

Wiresless doesn't consider Alabama to be part of the US

[TheGeekess]

Last time I checked, Alabama was still part of the Union....

OP: YOU made the choice to smoke. YOU made the choice to continue smoking. YOU make the choice every time you buy another pack of cigarettes. YOU want to blame someone else for YOUR decisions? I don't see an Alabama judge or jury deciding in your favour. If you've been smoking for the last 30 years, YOU knew the hazards of smoking before you started, because the message has been out for longer than that.

[HomeGuru]

Originally Posted by FlyingRon

Wiresless doesn't consider Alabama to be part of the US

**A: nah, don't fall for it. It's just a smokescreen.

[Antigone*of*Greece]

Originally Posted by FlyingRon

Wiresless doesn't consider Alabama to be part of the US

...lol...Wireless missed that tiny detail Silly me.

[xylene]

While "you should have known / you did know that tobacco is deadly" are compelling arguments for personal responsibility, they are not the end all of tobacco litigation.

The real reason why you have no case are that US laws insulate tobacco from product liability, as do a myriad of court decisions. This is stacked up with the fact that big tobbaco will fight tooth and nail, and have by lawyer and lobbyist kept broadly tobacco liability for addiction and disease 'in the pack'.

While it may be true that you should have known or did know as others have argued the reality is that laws, FDA regualtions and prior court decisions are what restrain your right to sue successfully, not moral arguements about personal responsibilty.

This position may (probably will) change as the political climate on tobacco changes from grudging acceptance as a tax revenue source to prohibitionist dismantling of the tobacco industry.

PS - I smoke Parliament 100's

[mejoejoeiam]

well it may be true I chose to try tobacco as a young man however that does not excuse tobacco companies for producing and marketing a deadly addictive product which they must be held accountable for. heres a question has anyone out there been injured in a car accident sued the other person recovered compensation when in reality they chose to drive nobody made you get in your car or go down that road.If you are not a smoker you have no idea how addictive cigarettes are how smokers are taxed well above and beyond. and how all quit smoking products are another way to exploit money from tobacco products. If you have quit smoking thats wonderful but dont try to tell me you dont catch yourself wanting a smoke i know better. but having said that we have to remember all drugs nicotine included affect each person in a different way and addiction is personal to each individual.

[Proserpina]

well it may be true I chose to try tobacco as a young man however that does not excuse tobacco companies for producing and marketing a deadly addictive product which they must be held accountable for.

Alcohol is addictive too - but are we going to hold Budweiser responsible for alcoholic liver disease? No. Because you do have the choice to do it, or not do it.

heres a question has anyone out there been injured in a car accident sued the other person recovered compensation when in reality they chose to drive nobody made you get in your car or go down that road

And this is nowhere near the same thing. C'mon. Not even close.

.If you are not a smoker you have no idea how addictive cigarettes are how smokers are taxed well above and beyond.

Actually some of us non-smokers are painfully familiar with both aspects.

and how all quit smoking products are another way to exploit money from tobacco products. If you have quit smoking thats wonderful but dont try to tell me you dont catch yourself wanting a smoke i know better. but having said that we have to remember all drugs nicotine included affect each person in a different way and addiction is personal to each individual.

Did you have a question? A point to share?

[racer72]

and how all quit smoking products are another way to exploit money from tobacco products. If you have quit smoking thats wonderful but dont try to tell me you dont catch yourself wanting a smoke i know better. but having said that we have to remember all drugs nicotine included affect each person in a different way and addiction is personal to each individual.

Didn't cost me a penny to quit. I watch both my mother and mother in law die by way of slow painful deaths. I decided that was not the way I was going to die, threw away my cigarettes and never smoked again. I really can't say it didn't cost me anything to quit, I'm now have a half a pack a day habit of Trident gum.

[Stevef]

Originally Posted by racer72

Didn't cost me a penny to quit. I watch both my mother and mother in law die by way of slow painful deaths. I decided that was not the way I was going to die, threw away my cigarettes and never smoked again. I really can't say it didn't cost me anything to quit, I'm now have a half a pack a day habit of Trident gum.

When I quit, a pack cost around $1. Now they're $7.50 (and no discount for buying them by the carton).

Holy Cow!!!! I just figured out I HAVEN'T spent almost $35,000 on smokes!

[Proserpina]

Originally Posted by Stevef

When I quit, a pack cost around $1. Now they're $7.50 (and no discount for buying them by the carton).

Holy Cow!!!! I just figured out I HAVEN'T spent almost $35,000 on smokes!

When we lived in ND my late DH smoked his faves at $1.99/pack (and this wasn't that long ago - maybe 5 years?)....across the river in MN it was $4.25/pack for the same brand.

And then...I moved to WA.

Oh. Dear. Gawd. My eldest SD is lucky if she can get hers for $6/pack!

[Adalaide78]

I know how addictive cigarettes are. There were times I had so little money I had to choose between food and smoking. I smoked. I lost an apartment because I couldn't give up that fix to be able to afford my rent. One day I realized that smoking was probably the most detrimental thing in my life. Much like you have realized. So I quit. That's it. I threw out my half empty pack and just stopped. Yes, it really IS that easy. Every time you go buy another pack it is a choice. It's always been a choice. If you want to lower your risk simply don't buy more.