Doctor lied in medical records

What is the name of your state? Ky

Is there anything that can be done about a doctor that lies in your medical records? In the medical records he states that he told me things but in fact he never even talked to me about anything that he stated in the medical records. I also told him of the side affects from the medicine that he had me on and he said that I never told him of any side affects caused by the medicine. Plus he lied about the dates that he talked to me and my wife on the phone. My wife went to every appointment that I had with this doctor.

[ellencee]

tdogg35
Obviously you have read, reviewed, and discussed your medical records with your physician and believe that he is lying. Are you aware than a physician may dictate his or her notes or make 'shorthand' notes and enter the full documentation at a later date? The documentation will have the date of the documentation and the text will have the date of the appointment or conversation.

It is entirely possible that you and your wife have changed the events during the process of normal re-telling and mental-note comparing. (I have heard some outlandish recollections of what the doctor supposedly said or did.)

Perhaps you are 100% correct and for some unknown reason, your physician chooses to fabricate information in medical records. If that is true, then please send a letter of complaint to the state's licensing board for physicians and ask for a review of the physician's practice and medical records and request that he receive appropriate disciplinary measures.

EC

welcome to the most evil, corrupt community of people in the world, not withstanding the lawyers--- wait until they sit right in front of you and outright lie during a deposistion concerning malpractice. most people wouldn't believe it but the ones that have gone through malpractice claims know the truth. my advice is no matter what doctor you get they all will lie they think its their job.

[ellencee]

D v G
I am disappointed in you.

One would have to look long, hard, and far to find a better group of people than the majority of physicians, nurses, and other healthcare providers.

I have never seen a physician lie during a deposition or a trial and I have never read a report that contained so much as an error, much less an outright lie. I have observed ALL types of witnesses try to avoid directly answering a question.

As in all groups of people, the medical profession does have a small percentage of disreputable and amoral people but the statement you made is not fair to the poster or deserved by the medical profession.

EC

oh come on---i have been in malpractice litigation for almost 7 years now and i have seen this with my own eyes and not just with my case either. i don't have the energy for this. i know what i know and so do a lot of other people.

My Phyisican wouldn't even send me my medical records for the past 8 months. So I never had a chance to talk to him about my medical records or anything. I have been having all kinds of problems with this doctor.

[ellencee]

D v G
If you feel the medical and legal communities are evil and to the degree that you stated, then do yourself a favor and avoid the medical community and the legal community.

I think your initial post stinks.

Original Poster:
Your situation is virtually identical to one that I read. The medmal attorney questioned the poster's ability to comprehend the consent and the entire medical care picture. If this was your post, go back to the other board where the attorney was willing to help find appropriate legal counsel for (you).

EC

Originally posted by ellencee

I have never seen a physician lie during a deposition or a trial and I have never read a report that contained so much as an error, much less an outright lie.
EC

Wow, ellencee do I have a copy of medical records for you. Eliminating any and all comments from me and looking solely at the medical records in the doctor's file (that means also excluding the hospital records) the doctor's records alone have several inconsistent statements. Inconsistent statments within the doctor's own records is either an error or a outright lie.

[pele]

Okay folks, I am a medical transcriptionist, and a patient. I worked, at one time, for a large group of doctors. There were times when I transcribed my own notes. Ellencee, there was no confusion on my part. I know what was said, and what was not said. I went to one of the MDs and had him correct the note. I also went to see another MD there who was going to send me to another MD and gave me a letter to take with him. In the letter he detailed all the questions he asked and my answers. They were basically "have you ever had" questions. He never asked me one of the questions. I went to the CEO of the group, who happened to be my physician, and complained to him. He said that he had had other complaints. I waited until a new specialist joined the group and went to him instead. Turns out I did not need the procedcure. I don't really think docs err in their PEs and their diagnoses, at least not intentionally, but when it comes to a history and asking the same questions over and over, sometimes they just skate over. And by the way, the bean counters at the insurance companies will pay at a higher rate, the more you do. In example, if a doc is seeing a patient for a finger injury, if he notes in the chart that he examined the spine, joints, etc, he gets paid more. You want to be paid more, you put more in the note.
That's just the way it is. And as far as dates, at least I have the advantage of working in the doctor's office where I can double check on dates that are wrong, names that are spelled wrong, etc, all this by the support staff. And I am not even getting into the fact that more and more transcription is being sent to India. Think about it, do you want someone from a foreign country typing your medical notes??

For one thing this doctor has diagnosis with a medical condition and told me to file for disability. But in the medical records he states that there is no diagnosis and that I'm to young to be disabled. The last time I checked there is no age limit on health problems. When in fact I have papers he filled out saying what he diagnosis me with. Then he goes on to say that he told me to have some type of test done which I know he never told me to have done because he would have had to referred me for the test to be done because that is the only way my insurance would have covered it.

Then in part of the records it says something about side effects being reported but later on in the records he says that no side effects were reported. It also says that my wife was the one to tell him about some problems that I had been having when I was the one that told him about the problems. Plus he would not release me to go back to work but he states in the records that I went back to the same job. This after he filled out some disability papers for me to be off of work.

He also says that he has spent significant time with me and my family. The most time that I seen him was for 5 maybe 10 mins at a time. Even then he would not answer any of the questions that I or my wife tried to ask him about my condition. These are just a few of the many problems I have found in the medical records. If he wasn't lying then why take so long to give me my records after I already signed release forms 3 or 4 different times?

[ellencee]

[quote]Wow, ellencee do I have a copy of medical records for you. Eliminating any and all comments from me and looking solely at the medical records in the doctor's file (that means also excluding the hospital records) the doctor's records alone have several inconsistent statements. Inconsistent statments within the doctor's own records is either an error or a outright lie.[quote]

I need to clarify one thing--in my 'no error' statement, I am referring to expert witness review, or expert consultation review, or answers to interrogatories. I've seen some whoppers of errors in medical records, including one patient's record (and thus, the treatment) that was another patient's information. Two patients were receiving improper treatment because of that whopping error. I've reviewed many records of care that include errors that resulted in damages.

I am (was) commenting on the implication that physicians 100% will not tell the truth in court or in pretrial activities. In my experience, I have not had a physician lie;dodge a question, yes.

In my clinical experience, I could tell you some horror stories of mistakes and a couple of purely inexcusable acts of negligence.

[pele]

Thanks for clearing that up, Ellencee.

[ellencee]

I have never seen a physician lie during a deposition or a trial and I have never read a report that contained so much as an error, much less an outright lie. I have observed ALL types of witnesses try to avoid directly answering a question.

me

Pele
You're welcome. I did not realize the above paragraph could mean 'outside of the medmal arena'; but I am more than happy to clarify my meaning.

EC

Thanks for the clarification. The confusion came as a result of the original posting asking, "Is there anything that can be done about a doctor that lies in your medical records?" I, therefore, presumed that your response was made in regards to "lies" in the medical record.

[ellencee]

Boxcarbill
Looking back, I can see the ambiguity of my remarks. I meant them only to apply to David vs. Goliath. It really irked me to have the sum total of physicians and attorneys described as the "most evil, corrupt community in the world". D v. G is welcome to his opinion, but to make that comment in an intial response to an 'innocent' poster--well, it made my temper flare a bit.

I keep tossing this around in my brain--Boxcarbill, has it ever crossed your mind that we may know each other? Every now and then, you write something that sounds a little too familiar. I have an 'old' friend in your area, one with whom I correspond every couple of years or so. By any chance do the initials JCM mean anything to you?

Thanks!
EC