zoomie123

[zoomie123]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New York
> Is it possible that Cylert could be responsible for severe headaches as a
> long term side effect? My son was put on Cylert for a period of 2 weeks
> during grade school because of "ADHD". This drug turned my son from an
> extremely active bright little boy to a deadbeat couch potato. After 2
> weeks of seeing this I took him off Cylert and told his "doctor" to put
> him on something else that wouldn't debilitate him so much. We decided on
> Adderall.
> Ever since my son has been off Cylert, he has been having these severe
> headaches. The headaches come every time he tries to do something that
> requires physical activity. Such as running, stacking wood, anykind of
> yard work or playing ball with his friends.
> My son is now 18 years old and has been having these severe headaches for
> the past 9 years.
>

[ecmst12]

You will want to get him checked out to find out the CAUSE of his headaches. It sounds to me like it could be something vascular, since it's associated with physical activity which raises heart rate and blood pressure. But it's highly unlikely that a medicine he took for 2 weeks, 9 years ago, could have caused any permanent damage.

[lealea1005]

So, in 9 years, you haven't taken your son to a Physician to have his severe headaches properly diagnosed?!

Headache is a side effect of Cylert. However, as ecmst already stated, A medication you son took for 2 weeks, 9 years ago, is probably not the cause of his chronic headaches.

[Ozark_Sophist]

Is your son still on adderall? Headaches are a side effect for that medication.

As the headaches coincide with physical activity, I would suggest (based on my own experience with stimulants and a family member's) your son make sure he hydrates properly. I found stimulants tended to give me headaches which drinking more fluids seemed to help mitigate. Not too much fluid, but an increase in daily amounts and monitoring intake.

A family member is currently on Adderall. When she complains of headaches, I ask when the last time she had something to drink. It's usually been hours. Drinking a glass of water seems to help her too.

[lealea1005]

Originally Posted by Ozark_Sophist

Is your son still on adderall? Headaches are a side effect for that medication.

As the headaches coincide with physical activity, I would suggest (based on my own experience with stimulants and a family member's) your son make sure he hydrates properly. I found stimulants tended to give me headaches which drinking more fluids seemed to help mitigate. Not too much fluid, but an increase in daily amounts and monitoring intake.

A family member is currently on Adderall. When she complains of headaches, I ask when the last time she had something to drink. It's usually been hours. Drinking a glass of water seems to help her too.

Excellent point, Ozark!

[ecmst12]

He should still get checked out though, it COULD indicate a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Better safe then sorry.

[zoomie123]

Cylert has been known to cause liver damage and in some cases has killed children. Who's to say that Cylert or Adderall couldn't cause prolonged or permanent severe headaches?
My son has been off Adderall for ~6 years now. He finally figured out kids need to behave in school. And, yes he has seen doctors for his headaches and all of them reccommended he take Aspirin or Ibuprophen or Tylenol...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH. 30 minutes of vegging out makes his headache go away just as well. Cardio vascular is one approach we haven't tried yet. Thanks for the advice. I still think the needless "ADHD" drugs started all this and if the teachers were allowed to do their jobs, like they did 50 years ago, there would be no need for Adderall and all the other LSD-type drugs.

[ecmst12]

Ok. I have ADHD and take Adderall and it is the only way I am able to hold down a job and otherwise live a normal life. It is a real disorder and maybe your son was misdiagnosed or just learned how to control his symptoms without meds but that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone. It has nothing to do with teachers doing their jobs or anythin else, it is a physical malfunction in the brain.

At any rate, he only took the cyclert for 2 weeks which is barely even enough time to build up a therapeutic level. It did not damage his liver or anything else. He has been off the Adderall for longer then he was on it. There is no longer any trace of either drug in his system but he is stil having the problem. That tells me that they are not related.

I did a google search for 'headache after exertion' and found a bunch of informative links.

[zoomie123]

OK, let's put it another way, he did not have these severe headaches before he was put on these drugs. What else could possibly have caused this problem?
I agree the drug is out of his system by now, but how much damage has it left behind? Can anyone say for sure that these drugs did NOT cause his severe headaches?

[Ozark_Sophist]

Originally Posted by zoomie123

OK, let's put it another way, he did not have these severe headaches before he was put on these drugs. What else could possibly have caused this problem?
I agree the drug is out of his system by now, but how much damage has it left behind? Can anyone say for sure that these drugs did NOT cause his severe headaches?

No way to make any kind of causal connection between the medication and the headaches.

[Zigner]

Originally Posted by zoomie123

Can anyone say for sure that these drugs did NOT cause his severe headaches?

THAT is not the important question.
The important question is: Can anyone say for sure that these drugs DID cause his severe headaches?

Answer: No.


That is why you lose.

[ecmst12]

Originally Posted by zoomie123

OK, let's put it another way, he did not have these severe headaches before he was put on these drugs. What else could possibly have caused this problem?

Oh, only about a MILLION other things. Headaches are poorly understood to begin with, most of the time, the cause can't even be determined. No one knows why some people get migraines and others don't, etc. Unless you can find out an actual cause of his headaches, there is NO WAY to link them to anything, other then the exercise that seems to trigger them. If an underlying cause is found, you can then figure out if it's possible THAT was caused by the meds. But like I said, it's EXTREMELY unlikely.

[Zigner]

Up until recently, I had really severe headaches periodically...for as long as I can remember.
About a year ago, I figured out what seems to the the trigger.
Boy was I mad!


Chocolate.

[Nativity]

The only thing I found for Cylert & headaches/severe were if you overdosed. Other than that the only other mention of headaches was this:

After you stop using this medicine, your body may need time to adjust. The length of time this takes depends on the amount of medicine you were using and how long you used it. During this period of time check with your doctor if you notice any of the following side effects:
Abdominal pain; convulsions (seizures); headache; mental depression; nausea; unusual behavior; unusual tiredness or weakness; vomiting
Other side effects not listed above may also occur in some patients. If you notice any other effects, check with your doctor.

But I'm sure if you look up all and any medications you have been on they will all say that. Headaches and migraines can be difficult to pinpoint the cause, or if there is one. Could be diabetes, high blood pressure, something wrong with his eyes, who knows.

Your best option would be to try a medical forum. You won't find anyone currently on Cylert seeing how it's been discontinued for a few years, and not for safety reasons.

[zoomie123]

Please do not reply if you own stock in pharmaceuticals. So, it must be a coincidence that my son, who never got headaches, started getting headaches after his school forced us to put him on "ADHD" drugs. Is that what you are all telling me? How much proof does one need? I can't believe no one in this country or Canada or Europe has not had this problem with their children after taking Cylert!!!