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Old 06-15-2005, 07:13 PM
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Dealing w/ Love, Beal & Nixon?


What is the name of your state? Oklahoma


This may have already been posted somewhere, but if there's anyone dealing with Love, Beal & Nixon in OK, please post here.

I have a good contact for you (my lawyer) who may be able to stop them for ya. (They're being investigated for fraud).

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Old 06-17-2005, 10:39 PM
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Just a little *bump*.

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Old 07-28-2005, 08:00 AM
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Love, Beal and Nixon


[quote=C M Chase]What is the name of your state? Oklahoma

I live in Oklahoma and am having dealings with Love Beal and Nixon as I am having to send them a cashier check for a car repo back in 2001.
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:43 PM
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Help me with Love, Beal & Nixon


You posted saying that you had a lawyer's name who could help with Love, Beal & Nixon. Could you provide that please, either privately or here. I'm worried.
Thanks!
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:28 PM
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Have you been served? How much time has passed between the time you last made a payment on the debt sued upon and their filing?
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:09 PM
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Served in Oklahoma


This is not legal advice and not offered by an attorney

These posts by me in this thread are for Oklahoma residents sued by junk debt buyers in the said state, whether they are represented by Love, Beal, & Nixon or otherwise. This information or misinformation as the case may be, is intended for CS or CJ cases and not SC. Some of it is mine, most was gathered from numerous sources including but not limited to this site, actual filings, art of credit, creditboards, credit info center, cm chase posts, and the whychat credit confusion web page.

LBN has hired a new attorney who seems to be all business and although a hater, I am impressed by her work so far. It is my opinion that if you are not up to the task, then you should work out a settlement for dismissal. You will need to be able to do your own research, not be intimidated, answer discovery requests, do all that is legally required, and show up for court dates. This is not easy and you should be willing to devote many hours to your defense.

Not to sound rude, but you must make an assessment of your own ability to take on a lawyer at their own game, although the more people that fight them, the more work they have to do and less time they have to devote to your case. It is not always easy, fighting and losing could end up hurting you more than just losing.

I will try to update what I have learned or what I think I have learned as time allows.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:10 PM
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Oscn


Use [url]www.oscn.net[/url]

It contains all Oklahoma law, case law, and court dockets in several key counties, some which upload court documents in PDF format. Searching the name of the attorney (boss and TV star, not the ones doing the work) or the Plaintiff in Payne, Logan, Canadian, Garfield, or Oklahoma counties should get you a wealth of information of what to do and not to do.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:11 PM
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Debt Validation


A debt validation letter should be sent within the 30 days of initial contact. If you failed to send that debt validation request, they will likely include the FDCPA required notice in the Petition. You may take advantage of that , if you wish

Sample Debt Validation Letter:

Earth, Wind, and Fire, P.C.
Attorneys for plaintiff
P.O Box ____________
Oklahoma City, Ok _____________
Date

Re: ________ County District Court CS-200_-__

To Whom It May Concern:

This letter is being sent to you in response to the referenced complaint filed against me, in particular paragraph 1 of the petition.

This is a notice that your claim is disputed. Please provide validation of this account and validation of the amount claimed. Please also provide the name and address of the original creditor.

Thank you for you assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,

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Address
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:13 PM
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Credit report


Get your free credit reports mandated by the FACTA amendment to the FCRA at [url]www.annualcreditreport.com[/url]

request the written version.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:19 PM
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Captions


Court documents should be properly captioned, see the petition or summons you were served for example.

Ex:

In the District Court of Sooner County
State of Oklahoma

JDB, ) No. CS-200_-_____
Plaintiff, )
) Answer, Affirmative defenses,
Vs ) and Counterclaims
)
Oklahoma Sooner, )
Defendant )

This doesn't seem to be pasting well, but the petition and summons header would need to be what is copied
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:20 PM
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Answer


The answer should address the allegations contained in the petition

Ex: (Double space all court documents)

COMES NOW, the Defendant, Oklahoma Sooner, As and For his Answer to the
Petition of the Plaintiff, XXX, and alleges and states:

1) Paragraph 1 of the Plaintiff’s Petition requires no response. To the extent a response is deemed necessary, Paragraph 1 appears to be notice of the Defendant’s rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and the Defendant hereby requests validation of the debt alleged in the Plaintiff’s Petition, and the name and address of the original creditor.
2) Paragraph 2 of the Plaintiff’s Petition is denied and Defendant leaves Plaintiff to provide strict proof thereof.
3) Paragraph 3 of the Plaintiff’s Petition is denied and Defendant leaves Plaintiff to provide strict proof thereof.
4) Paragraph 4 of the Plaintiff’s Petition is denied and Defendant leaves Plaintiff to provide strict proof thereof.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:22 PM
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Affirmative Defenses


These should be raised in your initial pleading (answer) if you wish to use them.

Laundry list of possible Affirmative Defenses. Internet expertise indicates you should spell out how your affirmative defenses apply. From what I have seen in actual filings from attorneys defending such cases, affirmative defenses are raised and not argued in this initial pleading. In other word’s, AD’s are listed 5) Statutes of limitations 6) Unclean Hands 7) Payment 8) Accord and satisfaction, etc… not as listed below with the additional verbiage.

For Further Answer, Defendant asserts the following Affirmative Defenses:
(Select those that apply and number them consecutively with your Answer, so if following from above: 5) As and for a first Affirmative Defense,)

As and for a First Defense
Plaintiff failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Plaintiff's Complaint and each cause of action therein fails to state facts sufficient to constitute a cause of action against the Defendant for which relief can be granted.

As and for a Second Defense
Defendant alleges that this action is time-barred under § (See separate section)

As and for a Third Defense
Plaintiff admits to purchasing the defaulted debt allegedly owned by the Defendant, causing Plaintiff's injury to its own self, therefore Plaintiff is barred from seeking relief for damages.

As and for a Fourth Defense
Plaintiff's Complaint violates the statute of Frauds as the purported contract or agreement falls within a class of contracts or agreements required to be in writing. the purported contract or agreement alleged in the Complaint is not in writing and signed by the Defendant or by some other person authorized by the Defendant and who was to answer for the alleged debt, default or miscarriage of another person.

As and for a Fifth Defense
Defendant claims a Failure of Consideration as there has never been any exchange of any money or item of value between the plaintiff and the Defendant.

As and for a Sixth Defense
defendant claims Lack of Privity as Defendant has never entered into any contractual or debtor/creditor arrangements with the Plaintiff.

As and for a Seventh Defense
Defendant alleges that the Complaint includes references to alleged agreements made outside of the alleged written contract, violating the Parole Evidence Rule.

As and for an Eighth Defense
Plaintiff's Complaint fails to allege a valid assignment and there are no averments as to the nature of the purported assignment or evidence of valuable consideration.

As and for a Ninth Defense
Plaintiff's complaint fails to allege whether or not the purported assignment was partial or complete and there is no evidence that the purported assignment was bona fide.

As and for a Tenth Defense
Plaintiff's Complaint fails to allege that the Assignor even has knowledge of this action or that the Assignor has conveyed all rights and control to the Plaintiff. The record does not disclose this information and it cannot be assumed without creating an unfair prejudice against the Defendant.

As and for an Eleventh Defense
The Plaintiff is not an Assignee for the purported agreement and no evidence appears in the record to support any related assumptions.

As and for a Twelfth Defense
Defendant claims Accord and Satisfaction as Defendant alleges that the original creditor accepted payment from a third party for the alleged debt, or a portion of the alleged debt, or that the original creditor received other compensation in the form of monies and/or credits.

As and for an Thirteenth Defense
Defendant invokes the Doctrine of Unclean Hands as the Defendant alleges that the Plaintiff or the person or entity that assigned the alleged claim to Plaintiff acted in a dishonest or fraudulent manner with respect to the dispute at issue in this case.

As and for a Fourteenth Defense
Plaintiff is not authorized or licensed to advertise or solicity, either in print, by letter, in person or otherwise the right to collect or receive payment of a claim for another, nor to seek to make collection or obtain payment of a claim on behalf of another. The Complaint fails to allege any exception or exemption to these requirements. The Plaintiff is not any of the following: an attorney at law; a person regularly employed on a regular wage or salary in the capacity of credit men or a similar capacity, except as an independent contractor; a bank, including a trust department of a bank, a fiduciary or a financing and lending institution; a common carrier; a title insurer or abstract company while doing an escrow business; a licensed real estate broker; an employee of a licensee; nor a substation payment office employed by or serving as an independent contractor for public utilities.

As and for a Fifteenth Defense
Defendant alleges that Plaintiff's Complaint, and each cause of action therein is barred by the Doctrine of Estoppel, specifically Estoppel in Pais.

As and for a Sixteenth Defense
Defendant alleges that Plaintiff's actions are precluded, whereas Plaintiff's demands for interest are usurious and violate state and federal laws.

As and for a Seventeenth Defense
Defendant alleges that Plaintiff or the person or entity that assigned the alleged claim to the Plaintiff is not entitled to reimbursement of attorneys' fees because the alleged contract did not include such a provision, and there is no law that otherwise allows them.

As and for an Eighteenth Defense
Defendant invokes the Doctrine of Laches as the Plaintiff or the person or entity that assigned the claim to the Plaintiff waited too long to file this lawsuit, making if difficult or impossible for the Defendant to find witnesses or evidence or that evidence necessary to provide for Defendant's defense has been lost or destroyed.

As and for a Nineteenth Defense
Plaintiff has no Fiduciary Duty.

As and for a Twentieth Defense
Plaintiff has failed to name all necessary parties.

As and for a Twenty-first Defense
Plaintiff's alleged damages are the result of acts or omissions committed by non-parties to this action over whom the Defendant has no responsibility or control.

As and for a Twenty-second Defense
Plaintiff's alleged damages are the result of acts or omissions committed by the Plaintiff.

As and for a Twenty-third Defense
Defendant alleges that the granting of the Plaintiff's demand in the Complaint would result in Unjust Enrichment as the Plaintiff would receive more money than plaintiff is entitled to receive.

As and for a Twenty-fourth Defense
Plaintiff's alleged damages are limited to real or actual damages only.

As and for a Twenty-fifth Defense
defendant invokes the doctrines of Scienti et violenti non fit injuria and Damnum absque injuria.

As and for a Twenty-sixth Defense
<Have you sued these folks before and won? If so, include this defense>
Plaintiff's claims are barred by Collateral estoppel and Equitable Estoppel.

As and for a Twenty-seventh Defense
Defendant reserves the right to amend and/or add additional Answers, Defenses and/or Counterclaims at a later date.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:24 PM
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Counterclaims


Attorney fees are limited to 15%, if you countersue that could go higher. Frivilous countersuits should not be filed. Valid countersuits are often your best leverage for a mutual dismissal.

[url]www.artofcredit.com[/url] for filing counterclaims
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:25 PM
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Prayer for relief


WHEREFORE, having fully answered, Defendant PRAYS that the Plaintiff take
nothing by way of it’s Petition, that the Petition be denied, and that judgment be
entered against the Plaintiff for the Defendant’s counterclaims in the amount of $X,XXX as set forth above, and that the Defendant be awarded his costs and attorney fees, and for any further relief that this court deems equitable, just, and proper.
Respectfully submitted this _____ day of _______

____________________________
Defendant
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:27 PM
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Entry of Appearance


To: Earth, Wind, and Fire, PC, Attorneys for plaintiff, and Clerk of the __________ County District Court
You and each of you please take notice that Defendant hereby appears in the above-entitled cause and requests that all further papers and pleadings herein, except original process, be served upon the Defendant at the address below stated, pursuant to Civil Rule 5.

Dated this _________ day of ___________, 2003

_________________________ Defendant Signature

____________________; Defendant
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____________, OK __________
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