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Moneyless living, lifestyle problem: Healthcare debts

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OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
It is not illegal to live without money. Buy your property, prepay all the property taxes for a period beyond your life expectancy, acquire a large supply of food and clothing, then drop off the grid, never interacting financially with others. Sooner or later, you will die alone on your property and the Earth will absorb your body as fertilizer.
 


TigerD

Senior Member
It is not illegal to live without money. Buy your property, prepay all the property taxes for a period beyond your life expectancy, acquire a large supply of food and clothing, then drop off the grid, never interacting financially with others. Sooner or later, you will die alone on your property and the Earth will absorb your body as fertilizer.
You aren't living without money then, OHR. You are merely shifting the payment date.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Yes, it is illegal to live without money. Didn't used to be so, but it surely is now. You have no means of eating or living without money. If you use the bartering as referenced by Quincy, you incur income on which you must pay income tax. The government doesn't want your barter. It wants your money. If you don't have money because you are evading taxes, the government will settle for seizing your body. Then you incur board bills, court costs, and defense fees.

No the government wouldn't hold you for life. You would make regular visits to court and jail for various offenses you rack up. You can't get a driver's license without Federal Reserve Notes. You can't pay your Obamacare taxes without money. You can't own real property in any state without paying property taxes - something that must be paid with money. Failing to pay means the government will seize the property and sell it.

Being truly poor is incredibly expensive and it becomes a downward cycle that few people are able to get out of.

You will get locked away for your refusal to use money because you create a situation where you cannot participate in society. Our system eventually solves that problem with one of two institutions.

TD
Someone could raise their own food, and cull their own seeds for the next year, and raise their own livestock and breed new livestock. Its not easy to live without money but its not totally impossible. If you barter goods but are under the filing threshold their would be no taxes and no obligation to be insured under Obamacare. The same would apply if you got a part time job that kept you under the filing threshold to cover those items you could not make yourself with the plants you grow and the livestock you raise. It would be a very hard life and possibly one that causes you to die early.

Again though, its a lifestyle that could possibly cause you to do something illegal and get yourself arrested and jailed.
 

commentator

Senior Member
And that's all it is, a pretty idea. The reality will take care of that in very little time, as it did with the commune and back to nature hippie kids who came to our part of the country in the late 60's and early 70's to live off the land. What was it they said about life in the Middle Ages, short, dirty and brutal? We tend to forget, from generation to generation, just how great it is to have the best in medicine and nutrition and disease control and work saving devices. But it all comes back fast. Especially when the weather is like ours is right now. Outhouse, anyone?
 

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