Home     Law Advice     Insurance Advice     Community    
Go Back   FreeAdvice Legal Forum > FAMILY LAW > Divorce, Separation & Annulment

Powered by Attorney Pages


  Find An Attorney In Your Area    
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-11-2006, 11:49 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2

Adultry to Irreconcilable Differences???


What is the name of your state? TEXAS

Hello.

I have filed for a divorce after I found out my wife was cheating. I filed under adultery, and I have prepared a divorce decree myself (to save money). In the decree, I included:

“THE COURT FINDS that the marriage of Petitioner and Respondent has become insupportable because the Respondent has committed adultery and the Petitioner finds it intolerable to live with the Respondent.”

However, my wife wants me to put in “irreconcilable differences”.

Question:
What do I gain by leaving in, or modifying this clause? I thought I would leave it in, just incase she decided to come after more money or something. So far, we have agreed on everything else in the decree…except this.

Thank you for your time
  #2  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 200
Texas is not a sole no fault state.You can file fault or no fault. Texas law recognizes only the following grounds as sufficient for granting a no-fault divorce: (1) the marriage has become insupportable because of discord or conflict of personalities that has destroyed the legitimate ends of the marriage relationship and prevents any reasonable expectation of reconciliation; or (2) living separate and apart without cohabitation for three years. ,.Filing at fault ,would be at fault .ThisCOULD benefit you in the process, especially where property division comes to play.Since Texas doesn't use "irreconcible differances"however she would probably agree with the (1) no-fault reason,but I agree ,having a fault reason and not using it could cost you.You will need to have good proof of the adultry Heres a site that explains , [url]http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/ObjectID/6191B9DC-00BF-42CA-A5ADA95C2AEC5196/catID/995EE405-21AA-4B4A-97CBABD905A37E1B/118/246/222/FAQ/[/url]

Last edited by seagoing; 08-11-2006 at 02:05 PM.
  #3  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:05 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 11,774
According to this site [url]http://www.divorcenet.com/states/texas/txfaq01[/url] irreconcilable differences isn't grounds in TX.

I don't understand why you'd make this the sticking point if you agree on everything else though. All the 'grounds' do is give the judge something to take into consideration when splitting the assets if the proposed split is contested.
  #4  
Old 08-11-2006, 12:28 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 41,373
Texas is also a community property state.
  #5  
Old 08-11-2006, 02:28 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJane
According to this site [url]http://www.divorcenet.com/states/texas/txfaq01[/url] irreconcilable differences isn't grounds in TX.

I don't understand why you'd make this the sticking point if you agree on everything else though. All the 'grounds' do is give the judge something to take into consideration when splitting the assets if the proposed split is contested.
Question:
What do I gain by leaving in, or modifying this clause? I thought I would leave it in, just incase she decided to come after more money or something. So far, we have agreed on everything else in the decree…except this.


I think OP is asking for guidance because he wants to protect his @ss in case something comes up now or in the future.

I believe he has a good reason to ask these questions.
  #6  
Old 08-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 34
Divorce Laws can vary from state to state. In most instances proving adultery can be useful normally for money/ alimony purposes. Judges can excersize their authority in this area. Ex: In NY a close friend was divorced, proved her husband cheated on her (two kids) . The Judge granted a nice alimony settlement based on this testimony. Used many times to get money settlements.
  #7  
Old 08-11-2006, 03:58 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2
Thank you for all the replies. Since im not looking for spousal support or money settlement, i guess i will take out the adultry. i dont think she will re-file for more child support down the road. it would only get ugly, and would just hurt the children, if nothing else. i dont want this to be a typical ugly long expensive divorce! we get along for the most part, and will likely be best friends in the future.... thanks again!
  #8  
Old 08-11-2006, 04:11 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,766
Quote:
Originally Posted by txskibum
Thank you for all the replies. Since im not looking for spousal support or money settlement, i guess i will take out the adultry. i dont think she will re-file for more child support down the road. it would only get ugly, and would just hurt the children, if nothing else. i dont want this to be a typical ugly long expensive divorce! we get along for the most part, and will likely be best friends in the future.... thanks again!
Sure she will, if she has primary custody. Child support is not a set figure forever. In TX, it can be modified every 3 years or by request of either parent:
[url]http://ocse.acf.hhs.gov/ext/irg/sps/report.cfm?State=TX#11[/url]

And it doesn't need to be "ugly." And it certainly does NOT have to "hurt the children." The CS is FOR the children!
__________________
"Judges want people to be reasonable. Where one parent won't be reasonable, judges still want the other parent to remain reasonable." (Ford)
  #9  
Old 08-11-2006, 04:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 11,774
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverplum
Sure she will, if she has primary custody. Child support is not a set figure forever. In TX, it can be modified every 3 years or by request of either parent:
[url]http://ocse.acf.hhs.gov/ext/irg/sps/report.cfm?State=TX#11[/url]

And it doesn't need to be "ugly." And it certainly does NOT have to "hurt the children." The CS is FOR the children!

Also, it's unlikely that her 'affair' would impact a child support amount anyway.
  #10  
Old 08-11-2006, 04:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,766
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJane
Also, it's unlikely that her 'affair' would impact a child support amount anyway.
Absolutely I agree.
__________________
"Judges want people to be reasonable. Where one parent won't be reasonable, judges still want the other parent to remain reasonable." (Ford)
  #11  
Old 08-11-2006, 04:40 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: "Harvey and Me"
Posts: 25,177
Under Texas Family Code, Adultery is considered Marital Misconduct .

My advise is NOT to take the grounds out of your initial pleading until such time as you and the stbx negotiate the property settlement including marital bills, custody and/or support. once you have what you think is fair, THEN you can agree to file jointly under no-fault for the divorce.
__________________
Just because I'm a miserable human being doesn't mean I'm not right...
  #12  
Old 08-12-2006, 02:42 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,062
Quote:
Originally Posted by txskibum
Thank you for all the replies. Since im not looking for spousal support or money settlement, i guess i will take out the adultry. i dont think she will re-file for more child support down the road. it would only get ugly, and would just hurt the children, if nothing else. i dont want this to be a typical ugly long expensive divorce! we get along for the most part, and will likely be best friends in the future.... thanks again!
The question you need to ask is, is SHE looking for spousal support or a better monetary settlement. Unless you have a fairly substantial amount of assets or debt involved, the monetary settlement will most likely not be affected by the adultery. As has already been pointed out, the adultery will have NO impact at all on child support, now or in the future.

An at fault divorce is almost always a lengthy and expensive one. You need to weigh the risks and benefits before you make a final decision.
__________________
Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.

Carpe Ominous
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 PM.



IMPORTANT NOTICE
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PAGE WERE NOT REVIEWED BY THE EDITORIAL STAFF OR ATTORNEYS AT FREEADVICE.COM. Thousands of professionally prepared and reviewed questions and answers in 130 legal categories are to be found at the Question and Answer pages at FreeAdvice.com.

F
reeAdvice Forums are intended to enable consumers to benefit from the experience of other consumers who have faced similar legal issues. FreeAdvice does NOT vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any posting or the qualifications of any person responding. Use of the Forums is subject to our Terms and Conditions which prohibit advertisements, solicitations or other commercial messages, or false, defamatory, abusive, vulgar, or harassing messages, and subject violators to a fee for each improper posting. All postings reflect the views of the author but become the property of FreeAdvice. Information on FreeAdvice or a Forum should not be relied upon and is not a substitute for advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who you have retained to represent you. To locate an attorney visit AttorneyPages.com. Copyright since 1995 by Advice Company. All Rights Reserved.