Happygolucky
Junior Member
I live in Washington. My female friend lives in Tennessee. Her husband lives in Alabama.
I will try to be quick and to the point and if I am not ordinarily the kind to talk poorly about anyone, so if I do it was wasn't intentional. I'm trying to just stick to the facts.
My old friend met this guy at a pizza joint they both worked at. She, then 19, didn't want to live with her parents any more, so moved in with this guy who was 18.
It was a roommate situation that turned into a friends-with-benefits situation.
A couple years of living together, and her working at Target, he talked her into getting a marriage certificate signed at the courthouse so that he could be on her insurance.
They eventually had three children during the eight years they were together. He cheated on her a dozen or so times, even bringing one of these women home and getting... um, romantic, on the couch.
He has two prior charges against him for domestic assault.
My friend has left him a number of times, but finds herself returning because she has no where else to go.
He was dating some woman who lived a couple hours away. He gave my friend permission to leave and to return home to Tennessee (they were currently living in Alabama) and for them to get a divorce. He refused to give her any money either for the divorce or to help her move out. My friend's parents came down and helped her and her kids pack up some things and they returned to Alabama. The next day, his girlfriend and her son came and moved in with him.
My friend's parents let her and her kids stay with them for the night and then dropped her off at the homeless shelter the next day, because for as nice as they seem to be, they said that they didn't want their good name involved in any of this mess.
The husband now, more than a month later, is saying that his girlfriend is no longer living there. He wants my friend and the kids to return home. Whenever they talk on the phone, he doesn't want to talk to the kids. I understand that this is just a matter of opinion, but to put it lightly, he never enjoyed being in the role of a father. Yet, now he wants the kids back. As does his mother.
So, the point to my story. While he gave her permission to leave the state before, he would now deny ever having done so. It doesn't seem that it can be proven that he had been seeing a woman or that she had stayed with him for a couple weeks. They are still together, but no longer living together.
She is currently staying in a homeless shelter, as that was the only way for her to get out from under him and build her life back up. But I am flying out on the 16th of June to pick them up where they can live with me here in Washington. Naturally, I don't like to see anyone in a situation like this, especially not an old friend and especially not children.
My Questions:
1) Is she legally able to take the kids out of state? She was given permission, but for him, lying is the first option, telling the truth is the last option.
2) Does it matter if out-of-state is Tennessee (from Alabama) or Washington?
3) She doesn't yet have a lawyer, but we will get her one once she is up here. Does my friend have anything to worry about in terms of losing her children to him? He has two assaults on his record and gets paid under the table working part time for his grandfather picking up pallets.
I will try to be quick and to the point and if I am not ordinarily the kind to talk poorly about anyone, so if I do it was wasn't intentional. I'm trying to just stick to the facts.
My old friend met this guy at a pizza joint they both worked at. She, then 19, didn't want to live with her parents any more, so moved in with this guy who was 18.
It was a roommate situation that turned into a friends-with-benefits situation.
A couple years of living together, and her working at Target, he talked her into getting a marriage certificate signed at the courthouse so that he could be on her insurance.
They eventually had three children during the eight years they were together. He cheated on her a dozen or so times, even bringing one of these women home and getting... um, romantic, on the couch.
He has two prior charges against him for domestic assault.
My friend has left him a number of times, but finds herself returning because she has no where else to go.
He was dating some woman who lived a couple hours away. He gave my friend permission to leave and to return home to Tennessee (they were currently living in Alabama) and for them to get a divorce. He refused to give her any money either for the divorce or to help her move out. My friend's parents came down and helped her and her kids pack up some things and they returned to Alabama. The next day, his girlfriend and her son came and moved in with him.
My friend's parents let her and her kids stay with them for the night and then dropped her off at the homeless shelter the next day, because for as nice as they seem to be, they said that they didn't want their good name involved in any of this mess.
The husband now, more than a month later, is saying that his girlfriend is no longer living there. He wants my friend and the kids to return home. Whenever they talk on the phone, he doesn't want to talk to the kids. I understand that this is just a matter of opinion, but to put it lightly, he never enjoyed being in the role of a father. Yet, now he wants the kids back. As does his mother.
So, the point to my story. While he gave her permission to leave the state before, he would now deny ever having done so. It doesn't seem that it can be proven that he had been seeing a woman or that she had stayed with him for a couple weeks. They are still together, but no longer living together.
She is currently staying in a homeless shelter, as that was the only way for her to get out from under him and build her life back up. But I am flying out on the 16th of June to pick them up where they can live with me here in Washington. Naturally, I don't like to see anyone in a situation like this, especially not an old friend and especially not children.
My Questions:
1) Is she legally able to take the kids out of state? She was given permission, but for him, lying is the first option, telling the truth is the last option.
2) Does it matter if out-of-state is Tennessee (from Alabama) or Washington?
3) She doesn't yet have a lawyer, but we will get her one once she is up here. Does my friend have anything to worry about in terms of losing her children to him? He has two assaults on his record and gets paid under the table working part time for his grandfather picking up pallets.
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