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Old 01-05-2009, 11:22 AM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New Jersey

I had to move in with my sister for awhile and she charged me 1200.00 a month. I explained our expenses and that we could not pay this, well she didn't care we gave her $2400 for Oct. & Nov., we moved out on Dec 23rd. Prior to this she told us that if we stayed a day over Dec 15th we had to give her $600, personally I thought she was just playing. Needless to say on the day we moved out, we were coming back to get the rest of our things and she just kept screaming and going on and on, I tried to tell her to stop screaming at me and just talk to me. I told her I would give her the $1200 and I did, I also stated that she would get the $600 but she had to wait becuz my husband had no paycheck becuz of payday loans. So for me to keep having to discuss this with her was pointless. Well this night I couldn't take her constant cursing, yelling and badgering and I hit her, she called the cops and she pressed charges. My charge is 2C:12-1a, I hit her with a closed fist. The complaint says that I purposely caused bodily injury to my sister by punching her in the face with a closed fist causing a swollen deformity under her right eye, and numerous red scratch marks on her forehead. I had to pay $250 bail and was released. what can happen in this situation? I was also told because she is a state correction officer with a gun in the house that she could possibly loose her job is this true?

Also, is there anything that can be done for a correction officer that has been on disability for 3yrs and the incident is a fraud because it didn’t happen at work? And also what are the penalties if you let someone you know use your childs ss# for taxes and they pay you for it? Who can these issues be reported to?
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:37 PM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? New Jersey

I had to move in with my sister for awhile and she charged me 1200.00 a month. I explained our expenses and that we could not pay this, well she didn't care we gave her $2400 for Oct. & Nov., we moved out on Dec 23rd. Prior to this she told us that if we stayed a day over Dec 15th we had to give her $600, personally I thought she was just playing. Needless to say on the day we moved out, we were coming back to get the rest of our things and she just kept screaming and going on and on, I tried to tell her to stop screaming at me and just talk to me. I told her I would give her the $1200 and I did, I also stated that she would get the $600 but she had to wait becuz my husband had no paycheck becuz of payday loans. So for me to keep having to discuss this with her was pointless. Well this night I couldn't take her constant cursing, yelling and badgering and I hit her, she called the cops and she pressed charges. My charge is 2C:12-1a, I hit her with a closed fist. The complaint says that I purposely caused bodily injury to my sister by punching her in the face with a closed fist causing a swollen deformity under her right eye, and numerous red scratch marks on her forehead. I had to pay $250 bail and was released. what can happen in this situation? I was also told because she is a state correction officer with a gun in the house that she could possibly loose her job is this true?

Also, is there anything that can be done for a correction officer that has been on disability for 3yrs and the incident is a fraud because it didn’t happen at work? And also what are the penalties if you let someone you know use your childs ss# for taxes and they pay you for it? Who can these issues be reported to?
You have gotten yourself into a HUGE mess. You really, really need an attorney.

You should not complain about the money sis charged you, that complaint will not get you anywhere, it will also likely work against you in the DV case. You willingly moved into HER home, and she had every legal right to charge you whatever amount she wanted. You could have said no, and not moved in. Unfortunately for you, you chose to move in and you agreed to pay whatever she charged.

You ARE guilty of DV. It doesn't matter what your excuses are, you hit her, and once again, you had a choice- walk away or hit her. You chose the incorrect action. Now, you need to accept that and move on. Voluntarily requesting anger management classes can help your case.

As for your allegations that Sis committed fraud, why didn't you try to do something before now? Bringing it up now will probably hurt your DV case. It's probably better to just let it go.
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:35 PM
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Your sister should have closed the door in your face. Hopefully, the court will deal with you as you deserve, and your sister will do whatever it takes to get you out of her life.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:46 PM
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Wow...you have a "bad family"?? You live with your sister (your, your hubby and family) for 3 months , punch HER in the face , want to turn her in for fraud on two different counts....

if you are pointing that finger at your sister when you are saying BAD family...notice THREE fingers are pointing back at you!!

Since you really don't seem to get it ( or sound the least bit grateful that your sister gave you a place to live for 3 months ) maybe going through this DV mess YOU have caused will open your eyes.

I'm not holding my breath...
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:06 AM
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You didn't have $600 to repay your sister, but had $250 to bail out.

Wouldn't it have calmed the storms a bit if you would have given your sister the available $250 instead of punching her?
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:32 AM
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Badfamily


This is what happens when you bring someone from the outside looking in and they do not know all the details! You are all wrong...
My sister is very selfish, I have helped her all my life, I raised her son because she was 14 when she had him and ran the streets, my mother did not stay on her and she was a 6th grade drop out. I enrolled her back in school, she chose to be a wise ass in a Catholic school and was kicked out. I encouraged her years later to at least get her GED. She was on welfare and received section 8 and let a no good man live with her. I then encouraged her to enroll in college and later kept her 3 children while she attended training to become a correction officer for 6 months. She had to move out and moved in with my mother, I moved out so it would be enough room for her and her children. She told my mother she was not there to help her and would not give my mother a dime. She has gone through fighting with her childrens father to the point where she was arrested and I BAILED her out, she almost did not make corrections because of that charge.
And now that my 79 year old mother lives with her, she talks to my mother like she is **** and charges her ridicoulous rent to live there. And for the record when I moved in with her temporarily she told me not to worry about it, just do what I had to do. Once I had moved in she THEN told me that she wanted $1200 a month! Had she told me this before I moved in I WOULD HAVE HAD THE OPTION TO NOT MOVE IN! For the record all she does is spend her money and not pay her BILLS, everything is due to be turned off. I gave her $2400 dollars in the time that I stayed there not to mention all that my mother gives her. When she had gastric bypass and back surgery I cared for her!
Also, when I first moved there her childrens father had taken all of her CODINE meds and put his medication in her bottle so she wouldn't notice that he had taken it all, and she became very ILL - I was the one there - while he left her pretty much for dead. HE also intercepted my nephews letter for a visa credit card, filled it out and received the card and charged $500 on it. AND SHE PRESSES CHARGES ON THE PERSON THAT DAMN NEAR RAISED HER AND TOOK CARE OF HER AND HER CHILDREN!!!!!!SO LIKE I SAID YOU ARE ALL ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. I ASKED YOU ALL FOR ADVICE WITHOUT GIVING ALL THE DETAILS!!!!! I PUT UP WITH HER CRAP FOR YEARS AND REMAINED HUMBLE THROUGH IT ALL - NEVER ONCE DOWNING HER OR ASKING HER FOR ANYTHING - BUT CONTINOUSLY GAVE HER MY SUPPORT! AND BECAUSE SHE WAS DISRESPECTFUL AND COULD NOT SPEAK TO ME AS A WOMAN WAS HIT FOR IT - SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HOPED I DIED!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON I AM NOT HARDLY WRONG FOR ANYTHING - AND THIS IS ONLY HALF OF THE BS, BECAUSE ANYTHING ELSE WOULD TAKE ME HAVING TO WRITE A BOOK AND PUBLISH IT!
My uncle was here visiting from CALIFORNIA and he never wants to come back to her house - he said all day long she curses and argues back and forth with her children's father and when my mother comes home from work she argues and fusses with her.
AND FOR THE RECORD ME PAYING HER THAT MEASILY $600 HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR TO ME MOVING OUT SO THERE WAS NO REASON TO DISCUSS ANYTHING I TOLD HER I WOULD GIVE IT TO HER JUST AS I GAVE HER THE OTHER MONEY! AND THE $250 USED FOR BAIL WAS TO BUY FOOD SO THAT MY FAMILY COULD EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT AGAIN SHE WAS SELFISH ONLY THINKING OF HERSELF AND NOT HER NEPHEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO TOO NATIVITY, SWRDMBO, HOT TOPIC AND GRACIE3787 - NOW TELL ME DO YOU STILL FEEL SHE WAS THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-06-2009, 08:17 AM
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Yep she is still right. And you are still guilty of domestic violence. Have a good life. But nice rant. Your immaturity by the way is showing. You might want to fix that.

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This is what happens when you bring someone from the outside looking in and they do not know all the details! You are all wrong...
My sister is very selfish, I have helped her all my life, I raised her son because she was 14 when she had him and ran the streets, my mother did not stay on her and she was a 6th grade drop out. I enrolled her back in school, she chose to be a wise ass in a Catholic school and was kicked out. I encouraged her years later to at least get her GED. She was on welfare and received section 8 and let a no good man live with her. I then encouraged her to enroll in college and later kept her 3 children while she attended training to become a correction officer for 6 months. She had to move out and moved in with my mother, I moved out so it would be enough room for her and her children. She told my mother she was not there to help her and would not give my mother a dime. She has gone through fighting with her childrens father to the point where she was arrested and I BAILED her out, she almost did not make corrections because of that charge.
And now that my 79 year old mother lives with her, she talks to my mother like she is **** and charges her ridicoulous rent to live there. And for the record when I moved in with her temporarily she told me not to worry about it, just do what I had to do. Once I had moved in she THEN told me that she wanted $1200 a month! Had she told me this before I moved in I WOULD HAVE HAD THE OPTION TO NOT MOVE IN! For the record all she does is spend her money and not pay her BILLS, everything is due to be turned off. I gave her $2400 dollars in the time that I stayed there not to mention all that my mother gives her. When she had gastric bypass and back surgery I cared for her!
Also, when I first moved there her childrens father had taken all of her CODINE meds and put his medication in her bottle so she wouldn't notice that he had taken it all, and she became very ILL - I was the one there - while he left her pretty much for dead. HE also intercepted my nephews letter for a visa credit card, filled it out and received the card and charged $500 on it. AND SHE PRESSES CHARGES ON THE PERSON THAT DAMN NEAR RAISED HER AND TOOK CARE OF HER AND HER CHILDREN!!!!!!SO LIKE I SAID YOU ARE ALL ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN. I ASKED YOU ALL FOR ADVICE WITHOUT GIVING ALL THE DETAILS!!!!! I PUT UP WITH HER CRAP FOR YEARS AND REMAINED HUMBLE THROUGH IT ALL - NEVER ONCE DOWNING HER OR ASKING HER FOR ANYTHING - BUT CONTINOUSLY GAVE HER MY SUPPORT! AND BECAUSE SHE WAS DISRESPECTFUL AND COULD NOT SPEAK TO ME AS A WOMAN WAS HIT FOR IT - SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HOPED I DIED!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON I AM NOT HARDLY WRONG FOR ANYTHING - AND THIS IS ONLY HALF OF THE BS, BECAUSE ANYTHING ELSE WOULD TAKE ME HAVING TO WRITE A BOOK AND PUBLISH IT!
My uncle was here visiting from CALIFORNIA and he never wants to come back to her house - he said all day long she curses and argues back and forth with her children's father and when my mother comes home from work she argues and fusses with her.
AND FOR THE RECORD ME PAYING HER THAT MEASILY $600 HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR TO ME MOVING OUT SO THERE WAS NO REASON TO DISCUSS ANYTHING I TOLD HER I WOULD GIVE IT TO HER JUST AS I GAVE HER THE OTHER MONEY! AND THE $250 USED FOR BAIL WAS TO BUY FOOD SO THAT MY FAMILY COULD EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT AGAIN SHE WAS SELFISH ONLY THINKING OF HERSELF AND NOT HER NEPHEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO TOO NATIVITY, SWRDMBO, HOT TOPIC AND GRACIE3787 - NOW TELL ME DO YOU STILL FEEL SHE WAS THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:37 AM
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Whatever Ohiogal - This is a free site so people can base their opininons as the see fit. She is wrong! and it does not matter at all what strangers think!
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:12 AM
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Whatever Ohiogal - This is a free site so people can base their opininons as the see fit. She is wrong! and it does not matter at all what strangers think!
It matters what one very specific stranger thinks. If you can't realize that, you will have a boatload of problems. Please tell the judge it doesn't matter what he/she thinks. I double dog dare you.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:06 PM
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Please tell the judge it doesn't matter what he/she thinks. I double dog dare you.
LOL, I triple dog dare the OP to tell the Judge that.

Boy, I'd sure like to be a fly on the wall at that hearing.
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:25 PM
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AND THE $250 USED FOR BAIL WAS TO BUY FOOD SO THAT MY FAMILY COULD EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT AGAIN SHE WAS SELFISH ONLY THINKING OF HERSELF AND NOT HER NEPHEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO TOO NATIVITY, SWRDMBO, HOT TOPIC AND GRACIE3787 - NOW TELL ME DO YOU STILL FEEL SHE WAS THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know, I was hoping OG would have broke it down like she usually does. My eyes tend to wander when attempting to read a big block of text.

As for the bolded part though, you need to grow up and take responsibility for your actions. You are now trying to blame your sister for the fact that you had to spend $250 to get bailed out. So I assume it was all your sister's fault to get a fist in her face then also? You apparently weren't thinking of your children when you hauled off and hit her.

I look forward to seeing you on Maury.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:18 PM
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Since the OP wasn't told that she had every right to hit her sister, her response was predictable. I doubt that there would have been the long post about what she did for her sister and how she was repaid otherwise.

The OP will always resent her sister for what happened in the past. But the thing she will never, ever forgive her sister for is the time she had to live with her.

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Old 01-07-2009, 10:16 AM
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I don't know, I was hoping OG would have broke it down like she usually does. My eyes tend to wander when attempting to read a big block of text.

As for the bolded part though, you need to grow up and take responsibility for your actions. You are now trying to blame your sister for the fact that you had to spend $250 to get bailed out. So I assume it was all your sister's fault to get a fist in her face then also? You apparently weren't thinking of your children when you hauled off and hit her.

I look forward to seeing you on Maury.
You want me to break down a rant from a self centered abusive violent person? Come on now, even I have my limits.
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