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Isitmyconcern

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? texas

Hello to all, I will make this as short as possible. I know this girl and she has two kids, one boy and one girl. The dad is currently locked up for selling drugs and the mom is the only caregiver. She has always seemed strange to say the least. She has been living with my sister. My sister phoned me a few weeks ago with some concerns and this is just eating me alive. She says that she had caught the seven year old watching porn, she was confused as to where he got it and was talking to him about how he shouldn't be looking at that. His mother comes into the house and tells my sister that it is ok for him to watch porn because he needs to know about sex anyway. My sister is 19 and this woman is 25 and I guess my sister is intimidated by her so she just left. This woman's husband is locked up again for selling drugs and her husband and my sisters "baby daddy" are friends. My sisters "baby daddy" asked for her to let this woman stay with her until her husband gets out of jail. Also my sister said to me that she, this woman, allows her kids to use profanity and tells them that its ok at home but not at school, to quote what my sisters says she said it was worded " you do at school what you do at school and at home you do what you do at home, and do not tell anyone I allow it". My sister says that this woman allows her kids to decide when its time to go to bed and has (before she lived with my sister) let them stay at home alone while she worked so she didnt have to pay a sitter. My sister says that she has asked her what her husband feels about this and was told the husband supports all of it. According to this woman their dad has also shown their son what weed looks like and has shown him how to "bag" it up. I know that this is wrong on soooo many levels but what can be done. CPS had been called on this woman before yet she says all the right things and even admitted to my sister telling the kids what to say when asked certain things. Yesterday I went to talk to this woman about all of this and she said that I was just two conservative I said to her she was a rotten mother and things got physical, she spit in my face and I punched her in the nose, she then left saying she had to get the kids from school, it was 11:00 am. I know I handled it very badly but she is just an ignorant piece of trash and my temper got the better of me. My sister today told this woman that she has 2 weeks to find a place but the woman says she will have to go stay her brother-in-law who is also from my understanding a drug dealer. The states been involved in his life as well so calling CPS I fear will accomplish nothing!! What do I do, these kids need to be removed from her care but my word against hers is nothing, we have no proof of this except what my sister has witnessed and what I have heard and a few things I have saw. ( her kids cussing and watching very violent movies) Please help me my heart is breaking for these baby's!!!:(
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? texas

Hello to all, I will make this as short as possible. I know this girl and she has two kids, one boy and one girl. The dad is currently locked up for selling drugs and the mom is the only caregiver. She has always seemed strange to say the least. She has been living with my sister. My sister phoned me a few weeks ago with some concerns and this is just eating me alive. She says that she had caught the seven year old watching porn, she was confused as to where he got it and was talking to him about how he shouldn't be looking at that. His mother comes into the house and tells my sister that it is ok for him to watch porn because he needs to know about sex anyway. My sister is 19 and this woman is 25 and I guess my sister is intimidated by her so she just left. This woman's husband is locked up again for selling drugs and her husband and my sisters "baby daddy" are friends. My sisters "baby daddy" asked for her to let this woman stay with her until her husband gets out of jail. Also my sister said to me that she, this woman, allows her kids to use profanity and tells them that its ok at home but not at school, to quote what my sisters says she said it was worded " you do at school what you do at school and at home you do what you do at home, and do not tell anyone I allow it". My sister says that this woman allows her kids to decide when its time to go to bed and has (before she lived with my sister) let them stay at home alone while she worked so she didnt have to pay a sitter. My sister says that she has asked her what her husband feels about this and was told the husband supports all of it. According to this woman their dad has also shown their son what weed looks like and has shown him how to "bag" it up. I know that this is wrong on soooo many levels but what can be done. CPS had been called on this woman before yet she says all the right things and even admitted to my sister telling the kids what to say when asked certain things. Yesterday I went to talk to this woman about all of this and she said that I was just two conservative I said to her she was a rotten mother and things got physical, she spit in my face and I punched her in the nose, she then left saying she had to get the kids from school, it was 11:00 am. I know I handled it very badly but she is just an ignorant piece of trash and my temper got the better of me. My sister today told this woman that she has 2 weeks to find a place but the woman says she will have to go stay her brother-in-law who is also from my understanding a drug dealer. The states been involved in his life as well so calling CPS I fear will accomplish nothing!! What do I do, these kids need to be removed from her care but my word against hers is nothing, we have no proof of this except what my sister has witnessed and what I have heard and a few things I have saw. ( her kids cussing and watching very violent movies) Please help me my heart is breaking for these baby's!!!:(
I suggest you back way, WAY off. You are extremely lucky that you are not in jail. How DARE you punch her just because she got upset that YOU are butting in to her business.
 

Gracie3787

Senior Member
Yesterday I went to talk to this woman about all of this and she said that I was just two conservative I said to her she was a rotten mother and things got physical, she spit in my face and I punched her in the nose, ...
This says it all.

YOU stay out of it from now on. As said before you are VERY lucky that YOU aren't in jail. In case you don't know it, punching someone in the nose is a CRIME.

Since this is all happening in your sister's home, SHE should do something about it.


BTW- Only "an ignorant piece of trash" would punch someone in the nose.
 
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Isitmyconcern

Junior Member
Ok so you guys can call me ignorant all you like, I feel like she really deserved it and probably more, so can anyone get to the important aspect of this which is she lets her seven year old watch porn and allows her husband to teach him about drugs. Its my understanding that a childs well-fare is everyone's business and that we all have a responsibility to call the appropriate authority's. The problem is that they have been called before, and nothing happens, the mother does not stop allowing these things to transpire and coerces her kids. And of course she got upset, she obviously would not want to many people knowing of what she allows her kids to do which says to me she knows that it isnt right!!! If she thought it was perfectly ok she wouldn't find it necessary to tell her kids not to talk about what they do at home at school. I feel like the problem now days is nobody has the balls to confront these idiots who abuse and neglect their kids, I would gladly have sit in jail for a little while if it meant she thought twice before allowing her kids to do the things she does. I dont have kids and maybe that's why it hurts me so badly that she is the way she is. Many people would love to take these children and give hem a caring, loving, responsible upbringing. Dont get me wrong I cant take them but somebody somewhere could. How many times do you have CPS called on you before
they get a clue that something is wrong. Regardless of what anyone thinks about how I feel about it, or how I chose to handle it there are kids that need help so can we focus on that? Thanks again
 

Isitmyconcern

Junior Member
And to add I did mention that I handled it badly, I am aware that I didnt have to say to her that she is a rotten mom. I did try to just talk to her, I asked her why she thought it was fine to allow her son to watch porn, I asked her why she thought is was ok to allow him to bag up weed with her husband, I asked her what she would do if they talked about it at school and she said they wouldnt, when I asked her why she answered that they knew the "bad people" would come to take them away forever. I then said to her what in the hell is wrong with you? She laughed and said I couldn't possibly understand because I was to conservative and wouldn't ever think to allow kids the freedom to chose their own destiny? I told her she was crazy and then said she was a rotten mother. And then all the rest happened. She uses fear to keep them silent, making them think that the police and CPS are "bad people" isnt that just as illegal as me punching her in her nose??
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
Again.

You have no business in this situation.

I am also assuming you are male that struck a female in the face.

You should be concerned over the very likely possibility of criminal charges.

"But SHE did THIS" is not a legal defense for battery.
 

Isitmyconcern

Junior Member
Wow do you people ever focus on the question at hand?? I am a woman, although I cant see how my gender is even relevant, despite how this is none of my business and I am a piece of trash for hitting this woman it would have been nice to know what else I could do for those KIDS!!! I have read other posts and it seem all of you "members" spend more time criticizing the persons who ask questions over i dont know anything you can than being any real help to anyone!!! Thanks for a whole lot of nothing and when this little boy turns out to be some sexual predator or drug lord you all can just remember that its none of your business. Unless of course he moves to your neighborhood!! It is so sad that that no one is concerned about the kids in this situation just the fact that I hit this woman and that I might be a man. I am now assuming that you all allow your kids to watch porn and cuss like sailors to help them determine their own destiny as well. Kids all over are abused and neglected or just plain treated badly because eveyone is worried about it not being their business, we turn a blind eye to what happens to these kids because we decide how other people treat their kids isnt our business, and I know some smartbutt is saying yeah lady their kids so just gone ahead and say it, I will find away to get these kids to safety because I do care and I know her actions are wrong and if I have to befriend the idiot to teach her right from wrong so be it. If you saw someone breaking into your neighbors house would you say not my business or call the law?? You would be on the phone with the mighty quickness, how is this any different??? what is wrong with you all?? So thanks again, I have been reminded again that nothing worth any true value is FREE!!!! :eek:
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Wow do you people ever focus on the question at hand?? I am a woman, although I cant see how my gender is even relevant, despite how this is none of my business and I am a piece of trash for hitting this woman it would have been nice to know what else I could do for those KIDS!!! I have read other posts and it seem all of you "members" spend more time criticizing the persons who ask questions over i dont know anything you can than being any real help to anyone!!! Thanks for a whole lot of nothing and when this little boy turns out to be some sexual predator or drug lord you all can just remember that its none of your business. Unless of course he moves to your neighborhood!! It is so sad that that no one is concerned about the kids in this situation just the fact that I hit this woman and that I might be a man. I am now assuming that you all allow your kids to watch porn and cuss like sailors to help them determine their own destiny as well. Kids all over are abused and neglected or just plain treated badly because eveyone is worried about it not being their business, we turn a blind eye to what happens to these kids because we decide how other people treat their kids isnt our business, and I know some smartbutt is saying yeah lady their kids so just gone ahead and say it, I will find away to get these kids to safety because I do care and I know her actions are wrong and if I have to befriend the idiot to teach her right from wrong so be it. If you saw someone breaking into your neighbors house would you say not my business or call the law?? You would be on the phone with the mighty quickness, how is this any different??? what is wrong with you all?? So thanks again, I have been reminded again that nothing worth any true value is FREE!!!! :eek:

Quoted for posterity.

If CPS hasn't found a problem, then that's all there is to it. Now, please do yourself a favor and grow up.
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
Wow do you people ever focus on the question at hand?? I am a woman, although I cant see how my gender is even relevant, despite how this is none of my business and I am a piece of trash for hitting this woman it would have been nice to know what else I could do for those KIDS!!! I have read other posts and it seem all of you "members" spend more time criticizing the persons who ask questions over i dont know anything you can than being any real help to anyone!!! Thanks for a whole lot of nothing and when this little boy turns out to be some sexual predator or drug lord you all can just remember that its none of your business. Unless of course he moves to your neighborhood!! It is so sad that that no one is concerned about the kids in this situation just the fact that I hit this woman and that I might be a man. I am now assuming that you all allow your kids to watch porn and cuss like sailors to help them determine their own destiny as well. Kids all over are abused and neglected or just plain treated badly because eveyone is worried about it not being their business, we turn a blind eye to what happens to these kids because we decide how other people treat their kids isnt our business, and I know some smartbutt is saying yeah lady their kids so just gone ahead and say it, I will find away to get these kids to safety because I do care and I know her actions are wrong and if I have to befriend the idiot to teach her right from wrong so be it. If you saw someone breaking into your neighbors house would you say not my business or call the law?? You would be on the phone with the mighty quickness, how is this any different??? what is wrong with you all?? So thanks again, I have been reminded again that nothing worth any true value is FREE!!!! :eek:
You have no right to tell this woman how to raise her children.

You have no right to physically assault this woman - regardless of your provocation.

You call CPS if the children are in danger. Next, you should start calling around for an excellent attorney to keep you out of jail.

You have butted into this woman's life... forcibly, no less... so that you can tell her how to raise her children.

You decided (for reasons that you never explained) that this woman not only should listen to your opinions upon her child raising but MUST listen at the threat of force.

Any other parent I know would have told you to take your opinions and leave. You don't seem to understand that unless you have a badge tucked up in there somewhere that no one has to care what you believe.
 

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