CRN Evaluation n adderall?!

[phillybird]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA

When arrested for a DUI recently my blood alcohol level was in the third tier. This past week I went to my CRN evaluation where I was told due to my high BAL I have to seek further assestments for alcohol abuse and dependency. I have that appointment tomorrow, and need advice asap.

At the CRN evaluation, when being asked if I am on a controlled substance WITH a perscription a told the evaluator I was on Adderall. Also when asked if I take amphetamines- I repeated about the Adderall. After disclosing this info, the evaluator said he is not going to include that info because it will just put me in a whole "new category" I am prescribed to it for ADD.

But now I am not sure what I am supposed to say at this next evaluation?! I had to go to a new facility- rehab and treatment center- to get a one hour more indepth assestment- where i am to bring my results from CRN. If asked about controlled substances... do i say no???

I'm nervous to say i am on it, with the results from previous saying i am not. i am very accepting of going through any classes for alcohol dependency from the DUI because i totally deserve it. but im not sure if talking about the adderall will just cause more problems because its an addictive drug and should not be drinking on it. (i did not take the pill the day of the accident- but how are they to know) and i know i will be taking classes due to third tier issue, and i'm not sure if i get drug tested during ARD or during any of this. i dont take any drugs- but the adderall will show. i just dont want more trouble- and want to know the best option.

[paguy88]

Originally Posted by phillybird

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA

When arrested for a DUI recently my blood alcohol level was in the third tier. This past week I went to my CRN evaluation where I was told due to my high BAL I have to seek further assestments for alcohol abuse and dependency. I have that appointment tomorrow, and need advice asap.

At the CRN evaluation, when being asked if I am on a controlled substance WITH a perscription a told the evaluator I was on Adderall. Also when asked if I take amphetamines- I repeated about the Adderall. After disclosing this info, the evaluator said he is not going to include that info because it will just put me in a whole "new category" I am prescribed to it for ADD.

But now I am not sure what I am supposed to say at this next evaluation?! I had to go to a new facility- rehab and treatment center- to get a one hour more indepth assestment- where i am to bring my results from CRN. If asked about controlled substances... do i say no???

I'm nervous to say i am on it, with the results from previous saying i am not. i am very accepting of going through any classes for alcohol dependency from the DUI because i totally deserve it. but im not sure if talking about the adderall will just cause more problems because its an addictive drug and should not be drinking on it. (i did not take the pill the day of the accident- but how are they to know) and i know i will be taking classes due to third tier issue, and i'm not sure if i get drug tested during ARD or during any of this. i dont take any drugs- but the adderall will show. i just dont want more trouble- and want to know the best option.

I think you should have not SAID anything about the drug then....

why did you?

[phillybird]

i know i made a mistake with even getting in my car. im terrified at any of the things i have to go through for it. i have no idea if i will ever get drug tested- and if i do this will show up. i thought it would be better to cover my bases beforehand. i didnt want to say "no" to those answers- get drug tested- then be called out for lying. my word will mean nothing then.

so then am i supposed to lie and answer no to being on a controlled susbtance?

[foot]

Probation for a DUI in PA is typically a very hands off situation. I would not expect you to ever be drug tested unless you set off an alarm. Don't go weaving a web of lies that you're going to get caught up in. If you simply say in this evaluation that you take the drug as prescribed and do not use any other drugs, I wouldn't think they will require you to seek extra treatment.

[fatamerican]

Originally Posted by foot

Probation for a DUI in PA is typically a very hands off situation. I would not expect you to ever be drug tested unless you set off an alarm. Don't go weaving a web of lies that you're going to get caught up in. If you simply say in this evaluation that you take the drug as prescribed and do not use any other drugs, I wouldn't think they will require you to seek extra treatment.

I agree. I was also 3rd tier in Philadelphia. My D&A assessment was almost a year to the day after my arrest. The D&A was not that big a deal for me probably because I admitted that I have a problem with alcohol. By then I was also in AA and sober for almost a year & told the assessor. They talk to enough drunks to know when they're being put on so just be honest about your drinking & you'll get assigned to alcohol counseling. If you're dishonest about your drinking they'll just assign you to more alcohol counseling sessions. I wouldn't worry about the adderall. If it comes up, just say you're taking a medication, as prescribed, for ADD. I was never drug tested in ARD. At one of my alcohol counseling sessions, I had to blow into a tube to check for booze.

[Yertle8]

Originally Posted by paguy88

I think you should have not SAID anything about the drug then....

why did you?

Probably because the CRN admin asked and the OP was being honest. Not something the OP should be criticized for.

I would continue to be honest in further evaluations. Disclosing that you take medication as prescribed shouldn't be an issue. Lying about it might be if they later find out.

[paguy88]

Originally Posted by Yertle8

Probably because the CRN admin asked and the OP was being honest. Not something the OP should be criticized for.

I would continue to be honest in further evaluations. Disclosing that you take medication as prescribed shouldn't be an issue. Lying about it might be if they later find out.

that may have seemed critical. Agreeded.

However, he was never under oth and really does not have to say anything he does nto want. I love this whole just be honest and it will be ok... I don't agree, you have to pick your spots IMO. That is just me.The OP telling them about the drugs landed him more classes. The CRN is actually linked with Penn Dot many do not know this.

[fatamerican]

Originally Posted by paguy88

I love this whole just be honest and it will be ok... I don't agree, you have to pick your spots IMO.

I encouraged the OP to be honest about his drinking. That's all. I was careful in how I answered all other questions. I was asked if I ever smoked weed. It had been almost 25 yrs since I did, lost interest in it & know I won't be smoking it again so I said no. They don't have to know everything they think they need to know. At the first counseling session, I was asked some really far out things like have I ever had gay sex, how many sex partners have I had in the last six months, etc etc. ARD is a voluntary program so I guess they can ask anything they want. I tried to tell them what I thought they wanted to hear. They seemed to be fishing for my reason for abusing alcohol so I admitted to marital problems. They were satisfied with that. Heck we had a President that "smoked pot but didn't inhale it", another that got a DUI way back when a clean cut middle class white man had to be smashed to get a DUI, and we had VP Cheney with not one but two DUIs under his belt. So I tried to keep perspective. They don't need to know if Mr Fatamerican smoked weed 25 years ago, cheated on his wife or had sex with men. But I made it a point to not be in denial about my drinking. I was assigned 4 one hour alcohol counseling sessions.