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Old 06-11-2005, 02:35 PM
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Neglected DUI restitution


What is the name of your state? California
I had a jury trial and was found guilty. I was sentenced to 33 days of work detail. 1300.00 fine and level two dui school.
When I contacted my PO to start the work detail, he tells me anything over 32 days is automaticly house arrest.
I tried to transfer the dui school to my home area, paid the fifty dollars and my paper work never made it to my local school. It ended up somewhere else at another school. So I basicly just gave up on it and let it go..
The fine I havnt paid either.
This was like three years ago, and through all this I lost my house and depleted my savings. Not being able to work for the 33 days of house arrest. And loosing my job because I had to have a license.
I want to fulfill my sentence but now I'm concerned with jail time. Also in the three years Ive been pulled over twice and recieved a ticket for driving on a suspended license. So I have two fta's to boot.

What would be my best course of action at this point. I want this behind me it's caused me alot of stress the last three years. And I want to get on with my life. Not that the court will agree but I feel I have paid my debt. Loosing my house, Job, and my ability to support myself all in one weeks time.

Any insight to this situation would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerly Eric
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Old 06-11-2005, 02:40 PM
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What is the name of your state? California
I had a jury trial and was found guilty. I was sentenced to 33 days of work detail. 1300.00 fine and level two dui school.
When I contacted my PO to start the work detail, he tells me anything over 32 days is automaticly house arrest.
I tried to transfer the dui school to my home area, paid the fifty dollars and my paper work never made it to my local school. It ended up somewhere else at another school. So I basicly just gave up on it and let it go..
The fine I havnt paid either.
This was like three years ago, and through all this I lost my house and depleted my savings. Not being able to work for the 33 days of house arrest. And loosing my job because I had to have a license.
I want to fulfill my sentence but now I'm concerned with jail time. Also in the three years Ive been pulled over twice and recieved a ticket for driving on a suspended license. So I have two fta's to boot.

What would be my best course of action at this point. I want this behind me it's caused me alot of stress the last three years. And I want to get on with my life. Not that the court will agree but I feel I have paid my debt. Loosing my house, Job, and my ability to support myself all in one weeks time.

Any insight to this situation would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerly Eric


My response:

I'm playing my violin for you - - such a sad song.

It breaks my heart to read that another drunk driver loses everything. Poor, poor, little drunky.

Bite me!!


IAAL
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Old 06-11-2005, 03:03 PM
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Contact an attorney. He MIGHT be able to soften the blow for you. Lacking that, just contact the court and advise that you want to turn yourself in. Once you are in custody, things will happen automatically.

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Old 06-11-2005, 03:53 PM
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Squad ie. patrol officers dont really know the facts.
What qualifies you to make such a statement?

Are you a police officer or an attorney?

Here's mine... I've been a sworn LEO for fifteen years. I've made literally hundreds of DWI arrests. In fact, I've made just over 50 arrests so far in 2005 alone. I've testified in dozens of DWI trials, and I'm qualified as an expert witness in alcohol enforcement cases... Both in the arrest process, and operation and testimony on the Intoxylizer 5000 and the Intoximeter EC/IR.

What are your qualifications, Tazerman?

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Old 06-11-2005, 04:11 PM
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"What are your qualifications, Tazerman?"

Oh come on Curt, Taz knows exactly what he is talking about. I'm sure he watches COPS, Judge Juty, CSI and all those other fine Criminal Justice programs.

Thats all it takes, isnt it?
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for all your responses. I think I'm going to contact my PO and see what he say's. And depending on that outcome I may have to higher an attorney. And for the brilliant man with absolutly nothing to say regarding my situation, you sir are ignorant. You see this system we have does have flaws, and is not allways right. This is why laws are passed and rejected constently. You will allways be and sound to be more intelligent if you can think outside the box once in a while. But angry lonley people are hard to explain anything to. God Bless your wife.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:33 PM
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In tennessee colony texas**************....coffield unit for driving while drinking and TX slammed me on my 3rd. Those are my qualifacations**************......over 15 years ago I paid my debt.
Ahhh.

I rest my case.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:45 PM
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Yes the police arrest but when and if a person is screwing up a cop knows nothing untill its reported. Im talking on parole or probation. Curt 581 if you can say you know the probation circumstances of a hit your a liar. You only know whos wanted****************************..curt i admire your knowledge but dont **** with things you know nothing of ****************************
Okay .. I WAS going to stay out of this, but ...

Tazer, just WHAT are you trying to say?? Some of your posts seem to make no sense.

Frankly, I know more about California's probation system then almost all the people on this board. That's largely because most people don't have to deal with it. In general,most cops know a heck of a lot about probation and parole as they deal with it on a regular basis.

Keep in mind, also, that not every cop pushes a patrol car around and has his head in the sand. Any officer - like Curt (or me) - with 15 years of experience is likely to have done more than simply pushing a black & white around the streets. And even if that IS all they have done, the knowledge gained by doing that job WELL for more than a dozen years can go a heck of a long way.

Precisely what has he said that is wrong, in error, or messed up?

And in the OP's situation, he is in deep doo-doo. Only an attorney may keep him from doing up to a year in county jail. Since he has already demonstrated his inability to show in court and that he is not a suitable candidate for probation, I suspect that he will do several months in county lockup before serving even more probation ... which he will hopefully complete AND pay his fines and restitution.



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Old 06-11-2005, 04:47 PM
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Yes the police arrest but when and if a person is screwing up a cop knows nothing untill its reported. Im talking on parole or probation. Curt 581 if you can say you know the probation circumstances of a hit your a liar. You only know whos wanted****************************..curt i admire your knowledge but dont **** with things you know nothing of ****************************
You're right. I know very little about the original poster's individual probation restrictions, conditions, or requirements.

However...

You are NOT qualified to say what I do or do not know. All you know of my background is what I've posted so far. You do not know what I did before becoming a police officer. You do not know what assignments I held prior to being assigned as a patrol officer.

Do you think in fifteen years of service, I've never had to work with a probation or parole officer? You think I've never dealt with probation issues?

You'd do better if you confined your comments to things you know about... like the Republicans being responsible for the current DWI laws... whatever that means.

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Old 06-11-2005, 04:55 PM
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Well I talked to a friend of mine who is a juvenille probation officer. He said he doubted very much they would just put me in jail. But could'nt really tell me what would happen because it's ultimatley up to the judge. So when I talk to my probation officer I'll come back and post the results.
Man I hope the guy who said maybe a year is wrong. I might be tempted to go live in Mexico. I feel like this has taken away from my ability to live a normral life. Even if I had completed everything they wanted me to. I'm all for paying for ones mistakes but do we have to beat them with it for seven years. Anyway thank you all for your responses. Some have eased my worries others tapped into my worst fears.

Sincerley Eric
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:58 PM
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Well I talked to a friend of mine who is a juvenille probation officer. He said he doubted very much they would just put me in jail. But could'nt really tell me what would happen because it's ultimatley up to the judge. So when I talk to my probation officer I'll come back and post the results.
Man I hope the guy who said maybe a year is wrong. I might be tempted to go live in Mexico. I feel like this has taken away from my ability to live a normral life. Even if I had completed everything they wanted me to. I'm all for paying for ones mistakes but do we have to beat them with it for seven years. Anyway thank you all for your responses. Some have eased my worries others tapped into my worst fears.

Sincerley Eric
What will make a difference is whether your county has issued arrest warrants for those FTAs, and if you have a violation of probation for failing to pay your fines or take the DUI class.

It IS possible that the FTAs and the failure to pay the fines will have resulted in open collections accounts and a hold on your suspended license as opposed to warrants. Not every county issues a warrant for an FTA. Mine does. But we have room at the local jail.

Each county deals with these things slightly differently. Call Probation, then go where the leads take you.

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Old 06-11-2005, 05:00 PM
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OK you pull over an 98 kia, you run the plates which has nothing to do with the driver or passengers. You pull the driver for suspicious activity and now you have 3 other kids to worry about. You run a check on the driver and its a clean 29 27 whatever your jurisdiction. Patrol officer dont lie to us and say you kbnow their wanted.
What??? WHAT are you trying to prove or say here??

Why was the car stopped? What was the "suspicious activity"? Why does the officer have to worry about 3 "other kids" when he doesn't even have to worry about the driver (since he's not apparently wanted)? Aside from a possible citation, what's this scenario got to do with anything at all??

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Old 06-11-2005, 05:12 PM
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I WAS REMINDED by my best friend when you pull someone over you have no knowledge of their probation or parole conditions, just a warrant?
Out here, unless the vehicle has a "want" (i.e. it has been reported stolen or used in a crime) we won't even know about the warrant. When we run the driver's name THEN we might get the warrant and other information. And if my Dispatcher is up on things, and she/he recognizes the name of the owner, they might cross check wants on family members or assocaites as I am out on the vehicle.

And unless we specifically ask or have personal prior knowledge, we aren't going to know all the conditions of parole or probation at the time of contact.

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Old 06-11-2005, 05:27 PM
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officer.com search curt 581
And what exactly is the purpose of posting this?

I think I'm filing a complaint with the mods on this guy
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:37 PM
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and the victims.
Victims? What victims?

Curt, can you pass the Tylenol, please? I feel one of dem strong ones comin' on.

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