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Old 12-29-2008, 02:24 PM
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That's ok... you have frequently been wrong before and seldom helpful. Why change now?
Should I assume that you have no scientific evidence to back up either or both of the statements above?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:28 PM
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Should I assume that you have no scientific evidence to back up either or both of the statements above?
You want scientific evidence that Zigner is frequently wrong and seldomly helpful (by the way, the evidence you would be looking for would be legal evidence that he is wrong on many issues and opinions by posters that he is not helpful... neither of these issues are based in science)? There is tons of it... simply search his posts. But don't expect me to do your research for you.

Now... do you have any scientific evidence that I am wrong? If not, why not just zip it instead of trying to stir up controversy.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:30 PM
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Now... do you have any scientific evidence that I am wrong? If not, why not just zip it instead of trying to stir up controversy.

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I'll take that as no, you do not know what you are talking about. You made the claims; you must prove them.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:32 PM
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You want scientific evidence that Zigner is frequently wrong and seldomly helpful? There is tons of it... simply search his posts. But don't expect me to do your research for you.

Now... do you have any scientific evidence that I am wrong? If not, why not just zip it instead of trying to stir up controversy.
Jim - you came in here making a specific statement in support of your view that driving while impaired somehow acceptable. I don't know why you hold that view, but it was the view that you presented.

You have been asked to back up your statements with scientific proof. You have none. Posting a rant such as you posted above does nothing to help, and is the very definition of hypocritical.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:33 PM
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I'll take that as no, you do not know what you are talking about. You made the claims; you must prove them.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
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Are you not claiming that I am wrong? If you are, then you must have evidence. If not, then you must agree that I am right! This would follow your twisted logic.
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Are you not claiming that I am wrong? If you are, then you must have evidence. If not, then you must agree that I am right! This would follow your twisted logic.
Jim - lay off the eggnog!
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:38 PM
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Are you not claiming that I am wrong? If you are, then you must have evidence. If not, then you must agree that I am right! This would follow your twisted logic.
Q: Are you not claiming that I am wrong?

A: No. I asked for your evidence. Either produce the evidence or admit that you do not know what you are talking about.

Google burden of proof.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:40 PM
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Jim - lay off the eggnog!
Zig - lay off the LSD!
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:41 PM
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First, I made no statement that driving while impaired is acceptable... that's just your difficulty reading the English language. I said that there are many common occurrences that would impair a driver more than a .04 BAC. This was not a rant. Your twisting of my words to stir up a fight IS a rant. So... I guess the same argument applies to you... if you cannot provide evidence that I am wrong, you must agree. Therefore, until you do so, you should consider keeping your juvenile comments to yourself.

"Better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

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Jim - lay off the eggnog!
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Zig - lay off the LSD!
But then I wouldn't enjoy all the pretty colors!
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:47 PM
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I'll take that as no, you do not know what you are talking about. You made the claims; you must prove them.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
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Then I will assume that your claims of loving your wife are just you ranting about things you don't know about. Poor lady.
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Never a dull moment, huh SJ?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:49 PM
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Never a dull moment, huh SJ?
Not on the drugs you take!
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:50 PM
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Not on the drugs you take!
Ahh, so now you claim I'm a drug addict, huh? But, being a bit impaired is perfectly fine and you have scientific evidence to prove it, right?
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:07 PM
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Oh for Pete's sake, guys, why don't you just whip them out and measure them and be done with it?

OP, California is a reciprocating state. You need to make sure your NC p's and q's are taken care of. Here's a link to the CA law that explains how that works.

[url=http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/tocd6c6a2.htm]California Vehicle Code Division 6, Chapter 6, Article 2 Table of Contents[/url]
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