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Old 08-22-2000, 07:50 PM
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I have returned from living overseas for a vacation with my 2 year old. Her mother went back to her home country and expects my daughter and I to return next month.

I would like to keep my daughter here to be educated and raised. I have some expectation that my wife will take some legal action in her home country. This will result in my being disadvantaged in terms of a national versus a foriegn-resident. If I keep my daughter and don't return as expected and instead file for temporary custody here what will happen?

My daughter has an application for citizenship being processed now and will have it in 3-4 months.
Does anyone have experience with this type of cross border custody issue?

Please help as I must decide this week about action.

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Old 08-22-2000, 07:56 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MCan:
[b]I have returned from living overseas for a vacation with my 2 year old. Her mother went back to her home country and expects my daughter and I to return next month.

I would like to keep my daughter here to be educated and raised. I have some expectation that my wife will take some legal action in her home country. This will result in my being disadvantaged in terms of a national versus a foriegn-resident. If I keep my daughter and don't return as expected and instead file for temporary custody here what will happen?

My daughter has an application for citizenship being processed now and will have it in 3-4 months.
Does anyone have experience with this type of cross border custody issue?

Please help as I must decide this week about action.

[/b]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My response:

Besides the legal aspects, for which you will eventually be arrested for kidnapping, why aren't you acting like a man and meeting your problems straight on? Why are you running scared? Be a man, damn it!! And don't you think that what you're doing is extremely cruel? And, when you are arrested, your daughter will wind up back with her mother, and you'll be doing time. So, you'd best do things from a legal standpoint and stop being a coward.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:06 PM
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That response is totally useless, ignorant and unhelpful. Do you not have anything better to do?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by I AM ALWAYS LIABLE:
[b] My response:

Besides the legal aspects, for which you will eventually be arrested for kidnapping, why aren't you acting like a man and meeting your problems straight on? Why are you running scared? Be a man, damn it!! And don't you think that what you're doing is extremely cruel? And, when you are arrested, your daughter will wind up back with her mother, and you'll be doing time. So, you'd best do things from a legal standpoint and stop being a coward.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:10 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MCan:
[b]That response is totally useless, ignorant and unhelpful. Do you not have anything better to do?
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My response:

I have NOTHING better to do than to refer to you as a gutless COWARD. You cruel and heartless coward!! Take that child back, or you'll be spending many years in prison. Don't say I didn't tell you so. You're just damned lucky I can't trace where you are, or a call to the FBI would be made, along with a copy of these posts would be sent to them for action.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:17 PM
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IAAL just informed you of a great deal. Such as that you could be brought up on kidnapping charges, if your child's mother chooses. Are you prepared to face that? Are you prepared to do jail time? Are you prepared to lose even the right to unsupervised visitation with your child? If so, the experts here are unlikely to help you cause so much anguish with so little chance of gain.

IAAL is in the minority here in that he is one of the few experts among many people searching for help they can not find elsewhere. Yes, I am sure he has better things to do than to warn you of the peril you put yourself in and then get insulted.

Perhaps if you apologized, one of the experts here might still explore some options with you such as discussing possibilies with your wife in mediation. Unfortunately, I think you are going to need to retain a lawyer one way or the other as you may be on your way to destroying your own future. And your childs relationship with you.

Have a nice day.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:21 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Don't say I didn't tell you so. You're just damned lucky I can't trace where you are, or a call to the FBI be made, along with a copy of these posts would be sent to them for action.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Technically, with a little help from the moderator(?) you could. His IP was logged.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:25 PM
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My further response:

It is absolutely appalling that a person would ask US, or anyone, to assist in an illegal activity - - especially one so heinous as this. Kidnapping is a worldwide offense, and when Interpol finds this COWARD, with the assist from the FBI, and other intelligence agencies, he's going wish he never embarked upon such shear madness and stupdity - - AND I DON'T CARE WHAT HIS PROBLEMS ARE WITH HIS WIFE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. You don't commit a felony because you're too much of a COWARD to face your problems. The easy way out is the way behind bars, pal. Then what are you going to do with your daughter? I am so ripping mad!

IAAL

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:33 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tigres:
[b] Technically, with a little help from the moderator(?) you could. His IP was logged.
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Get his IP, trace it to the owning ISP or company, get court order for the ISP or company to release the records showing who had that IP address at the time the message was posted.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:38 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by usdeeper:
[b] Get his IP, trace it to the owning ISP or company, get court order for the ISP or company to release the records showing who had that IP address at the time the message was posted.

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To Tig and UsDeeper:

Yes, it's worth a shot. I'll report it. This is a felony in progress, and I'll keep you informed about what our moderator does, or is willing to do.

Thanks.

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Old 08-22-2000, 08:56 PM
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Okay, the report has been made. When Mary contacts me, I'll let you guys know.

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Old 08-23-2000, 10:50 AM
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To All Concerned:

Here's the response I have received from our Moderator, Mary:


Return-path: &lt;mary@adviceco.com&gt;
Reply-To: "Mary ******" &lt;mary@adviceco.com&gt;
To: "I AM ALWAYS LIABLE" &lt;liable@zzzzzz.com&gt;
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:00:38 -0700
Message-ID: &lt;001101c00d12$e6430c20$6a01a8c0@slip.net&gt;


I have passed this on to our CEO.

Thank you

M

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Old 08-23-2000, 11:31 AM
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With all the worry I have that my daughter's exhusband threatens to take my grandchildren across the border, I salute you IAAL in your defense of the children. They are the victims of sensless cowardly people who can't face the reality of their actions. The center for exploited children is the most wonderful website for help on the web. Again, thank you for your stand on this heinous idiot. Bless you.
 



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