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Old 05-09-2000, 12:08 AM
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Does anyone have any advice on obtaining child support from a full-time student? I'm a full-time student as well as the father of my 17 month-old son. I use my financial aid and student loans to pay for his expenses, day care etc. with no help from the father. I want to know can he be forced to get a part time job to help support our child? I was told by an attorney that it would be unlikely for me to obtain any support from him.
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Old 05-09-2000, 07:13 AM
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Why is it that- when directed at women, "you play, you pay" is regarded as callous, and punitive, and when directed at men, it is accepted?
There is little sympathy( despite the fact that men are lied to, to be trapped into fatherhood), that there is no "right-to-choose, for the man. Unnoticed is the irony that it is the same argument that women's rights groups have used to allow women to kill the child, without acknowlegement of the father in the least.
You want support, but is the father 'allowed' any connection with the child? I feel badly for the child, if your primary concern is some financial gain, because you decided to get pregnant.

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Old 05-09-2000, 09:58 AM
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I just asked for advice not the third degree, you sir, have no right judging me nor my current situation, which you no nothing about. If you must know the father is always welcome to see his son but chooses not to. I did not CHOOSE to become pregnant and took every precaution to ensure I didn't but nothing is 100%. If men were able to become pregnant I think you would change your perspective. I did not create this child on my own, but I'm surely raising him like I did. And I refused to get an abortion when asked to by the father. So I ask you, why am I to blame in your eyes? I just feel that some responsibility should be taken by the father. Is that wrong? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 16952:
[b]Why is it that- when directed at women, "you play, you pay" is regarded as callous, and punitive, and when directed at men, it is accepted?
There is little sympathy( despite the fact that men are lied to, to be trapped into fatherhood), that there is no "right-to-choose, for the man. Unnoticed is the irony that it is the same argument that women's rights groups have used to allow women to kill the child, without acknowlegement of the father in the least.
You want support, but is the father 'allowed' any connection with the child? I feel badly for the child, if your primary concern is some financial gain, because you decided to get pregnant.

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Old 05-09-2000, 10:43 AM
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Here we go**************. I am not responsible, I'm just a woman.
(Jane Roe, may she burn, says you have the ultimate choice.) I thank you for not choosing to kill the baby. No, you did not create this blessing alone, but if you are to have the ultimate control, you have the ultimate responsibility. Sorry to hear that he doesn't want to see the baby-- believe me, it's his loss. My point is that a woman can callously put the baby up for adoption,or kill it, without any input from the other half, and the man is required to serve the mother for at least 18 years. When this country starts to equalize the responsibilities, we won't have so many unplanned kids. The child is the only one who loses. BTW, I'm not judging you....
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Old 05-09-2000, 04:50 PM
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I respect your opinion, yet I feel you're not leaving any room for exceptions to your stereo-type of single mothers. Believe me, at first I chose not to seek any support from the father. I know what it's like to be a full-time student with little resources, yet my chid's father has every luxury....ie) big screen TV, brand new PC, DVD player for his TV, yet doesn't have money for his son. The only thing I would really like is half of child care, thats it. That is not "serving" me but my son.
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Old 05-09-2000, 06:26 PM
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I've really got to ask for your forgiveness.
You've taken the hardest road. To decide to keep the baby takes guts. As for HIM-all guys aren't pigs, but he is why we all are stero-typed in some way, and why the support laws are so Screwed up. I found no anger in my responses to you, I appreciate that, no excuse, but "I was off my meds". I do believe he owes you something to help care for the baby, and there's no stereo typing of single mothers from me. He doesn't see the baby, doesn't hold it, and I know it hurts you, even a little? I think I was more upset with the idea that somehow, you didn't see thru' the swine, prior to getting into your present situation.
Forgive me, I really wasn't trying to "bust" on you, just angry about the way this country is raising our leaders.

As for nothing being 100% fool-proof, I guess you're right. I know a guy named Joe, who was told by his fiance that she was pregnant, and he was man enough to raise the child as his own, as (only) a step dad.
And when we nailed this child to a cross, we realized what his mom knew all along. That she was getting support for her child.


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