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09-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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| | | foster care stealing my grandchildren What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? pa
i raised my first grandson for the first 3 years of his life and became handicapped and forced my daughter to become a mother to him and as time past she was doing a great job and also had 2 other children .on the birth of her last child we the family found out that she was doing drugs while she was pregnant and children and youth services took all the children and put them in foster care,they let me visit with my garndchildren up until the week before christmas.i don't understand why they would hurt the children and myself .my grandson calls me mom.what are they thinking , it's now been a year and 2 months and my daughter was what i thought was totally compling with the court ordered plans ,she even told us the she soon would be getting the children back.to find out 2 weeks ago that she tested dirty on her drug test ,they sent her to rehab and she called me last night and told me that it doesn't matter what she does ,her worker said the children are going to be placed for adoption.what can i do ? please help me!! | 
09-12-2009, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jolonzo What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? pa
i raised my first grandson for the first 3 years of his life and became handicapped and forced my daughter to become a mother to him and as time past she was doing a great job and also had 2 other children .on the birth of her last child we the family found out that she was doing drugs while she was pregnant and children and youth services took all the children and put them in foster care,they let me visit with my garndchildren up until the week before christmas.i don't understand why they would hurt the children and myself .my grandson calls me mom.what are they thinking , it's now been a year and 2 months and my daughter was what i thought was totally compling with the court ordered plans ,she even told us the she soon would be getting the children back.to find out 2 weeks ago that she tested dirty on her drug test ,they sent her to rehab and she called me last night and told me that it doesn't matter what she does ,her worker said the children are going to be placed for adoption.what can i do ? please help me!! | There is nothing you can do. The MOTHER of these children does not care enough about them to comply with the necessary steps to regain custody and you are handicapped and can't care for them. You also are allowing your grandchild to call you "mom" which is a VERY BAD thing to do.
The children need competent parents to care for them. Hopefully the state will find a couple to parent these poor children.
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09-12-2009, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jolonzo What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? pa
i raised my first grandson for the first 3 years of his life and became handicapped and forced my daughter to become a mother to him and as time past she was doing a great job and also had 2 other children .on the birth of her last child we the family found out that she was doing drugs while she was pregnant and children and youth services took all the children and put them in foster care,they let me visit with my garndchildren up until the week before christmas.i don't understand why they would hurt the children and myself | They're not. They are trying to do what's best for the kids - you are disabled and not the best person to take care of the children. Where is the father? Quote:
.my grandson calls me mom.what are they thinking , it's now been a year and 2 months and my daughter was what i thought was totally compling with the court ordered plans ,she even told us the she soon would be getting the children back.to find out 2 weeks ago that she tested dirty on her drug test ,they sent her to rehab and she called me last night and told me that it doesn't matter what she does ,her worker said the children are going to be placed for adoption.what can i do ? please help me!!
| Unfortunately for you Blue is right - there's nothing you can do at this point.
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09-12-2009, 03:55 PM
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| | | I agree with the other posters. There is unfortunately nothing you can do. You have my condolences, I understand that this is going to be a very painful loss for you, but unless you have family members that would be willing and able to adopt the children, there is nothing that can be done.
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09-12-2009, 05:37 PM
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| | | Isn't this a case where grandma would have a chance at getting visitation, even if the children are adopted? | 
09-12-2009, 05:55 PM
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| | | lonely grandma i would hope so.i only wish and pray that this would be true.i know they are hurting too. | 
09-12-2009, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogmatique They're not. They are trying to do what's best for the kids - you are disabled and not the best person to take care of the children. Where is the father?
Unfortunately for you Blue is right - there's nothing you can do at this point. | The father to the first child is unknown.unfortunately the father to the others just got out of jail for failure to pay child support. | 
09-12-2009, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandmaOH Isn't this a case where grandma would have a chance at getting visitation, even if the children are adopted? | My feeling is no - grandparent visitation may survive a step-parent adoption but not a regular adoption (even though PA is markedly more grandparent-friendly than most states). Quote:
Sections 5311 (relating to when parent deceased), 5312 (relating to when parents' marriage is dissolved or parents are separated) and 5313 (relating to when child has resided with grandparents) shall not apply if the child has been adopted by a person other than a stepparent or grandparent. Any visitation rights granted pursuant to this section prior to the adoption of the child shall be automatically terminated upon such adoption.
Title 23, Part V, Chap. 53, SubChap. A, § 5314
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09-12-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jolonzo The father to the first child is unknown.unfortunately the father to the others just got out of jail for failure to pay child support. | Did this father have his rights terminated?
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09-12-2009, 10:54 PM
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| | | no the father did not terminate his parental rights nor as he says he will never signhis parental rights . does this make a difference??? | 
09-12-2009, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jolonzo no the father did not terminate his parental rights nor as he says he will never signhis parental rights . does this make a difference??? | Assuming that he's actually had those rights established, yes - it could make a difference (to him at least).
If Dad is notified of the proposed adoption he has the right to petition for custody of his child (but not the others).
Unfortunately it doesn't really alter your situation.
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