grandparents slamed by case worker

[Fred Johnson]

What is the name of your state? Florida

We have grandchildren in the custody of the state of NE. Bi-polar mom said the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time, etc. She is considered a danger to her children. Our son did not comply with the initial state request to keep kids away from mom, so custody was taken by state. April 2008

30 months later...

I could write a book but still no end in site. Grandparents in Florida (us) submitted to a home study 24 months ago where the case worker concocted allegations with regard to our following court orders. We have the room to house the whole family in Florida. Among the report wording was a sentence with "... beliefs not coinciding with court ..."

NE judge slammed us, bi-polar moms aunt/uncle in NE has purjured themselves to keep our blood grandchildren in NE. For 20 months now we have had to live with the stigma painted by the case workers and accepted by the judge. We can't sleep at night and believe our God given calling is to support family as outlined in 1 Timothy 5:8. "If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

Case has evolved past a legal separation of the parents, and keeps getting dragged on by petty claims (children underweight, etc). Lawyers have changed multiple times and one now claims they aren't familiar enough to let case close. Kids were 2 1/2 and 1/2. Now they are 5,3,1, and newborn.

Can anyone shed any ideas of light on our plight?

chec at cox dot net

 

[Proserpina]

What is the name of your state? Florida

We have grandchildren in the custody of the state of NE. Bi-polar mom said the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time, etc. She is considered a danger to her children. Our son did not comply with the initial state request to keep kids away from mom, so custody was taken by state. April 2008

30 months later...

I could write a book but still no end in site. Grandparents in Florida (us) submitted to a home study 24 months ago where the case worker concocted allegations with regard to our following court orders. We have the room to house the whole family in Florida. Among the report wording was a sentence with "... beliefs not coinciding with court ..."

NE judge slammed us, bi-polar moms aunt/uncle in NE has purjured themselves to keep our blood grandchildren in NE. For 20 months now we have had to live with the stigma painted by the case workers and accepted by the judge. We can't sleep at night and believe our God given calling is to support family as outlined in 1 Timothy 5:8. "If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

Case has evolved past a legal separation of the parents, and keeps getting dragged on by petty claims (children underweight, etc). Lawyers have changed multiple times and one now claims they aren't familiar enough to let case close. Kids were 2 1/2 and 1/2. Now they are 5,3,1, and newborn.

Can anyone shed any ideas of light on our plight?

chec at cox dot net

So who currently has legal (if only temporary) custody?

Under what conditions?

Have the parents' rights actually been legally terminated?

Is there any sort of reunification plan?

 

[Isis1]

I'll ignore the unrelated drama. Is mom or dad even trying to work their famy case plan? Is mom on her meds?

I've got some bad news. You live in FL. kids are in NE. child services' main goal is reunification with the parents. They can't monitor that from a different state.

You have the option to moving yourself to NE to provide for a better position i. Helping the grandchildren, and mom and dad to encourage them to follow their case plan.

I have to ask, what exactly did mom say?

 

[Fred Johnson]

So who currently has legal (if only temporary) custody?

Father has placement. Had had kids in house since April 2010, this year.

Have the parents' rights actually been legally terminated? No

Is there any sort of reunification plan? Yes, father keeps being told that case will close 30 days after separation goes through (Aug. 7) by this attorney and that attorney keep dragging case on.

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I'll ignore the unrelated drama. Is mom or dad even trying to work their famy case plan? Is mom on her meds?

I've got some bad news. You live in FL. kids are in NE. child services' main goal is reunification with the parents. They can't monitor that from a different state.

You have the option to moving yourself to NE to provide for a better position i. Helping the grandchildren, and mom and dad to encourage them to follow their case plan.

Having to up root and move 1500 miles is a **** like requirement. There has been a Berlin Wall around Omaha for 30 months now. Son did everything they have demanded and yet the lawyers want to continue to collect their state-funded fees.

I have to ask, what exactly did mom say?

From what I gather: She asked her mother if she ever thought of hurting her kids

 

[Isis1]

So the kids are with dad right now? And all he has to do is finalize a legal seperstion from his wife?

 

[Proserpina]

So the kids are with dad right now? And all he has to do is finalize a legal seperstion from his wife?

(If son has children...why is this a grandparents rights issue?)

Are the grandparents attempting to get visitation against Dad's wishes?

What?

 

[mistoffolees]

What is the name of your state? Florida

We have grandchildren in the custody of the state of NE. Bi-polar mom said the wrong thing to the wrong person at the wrong time, etc. She is considered a danger to her children. Our son did not comply with the initial state request to keep kids away from mom, so custody was taken by state. April 2008

30 months later...

I could write a book but still no end in site. Grandparents in Florida (us) submitted to a home study 24 months ago where the case worker concocted allegations with regard to our following court orders. We have the room to house the whole family in Florida. Among the report wording was a sentence with "... beliefs not coinciding with court ..."

NE judge slammed us, bi-polar moms aunt/uncle in NE has purjured themselves to keep our blood grandchildren in NE. For 20 months now we have had to live with the stigma painted by the case workers and accepted by the judge. We can't sleep at night and believe our God given calling is to support family as outlined in 1 Timothy 5:8. "If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

Case has evolved past a legal separation of the parents, and keeps getting dragged on by petty claims (children underweight, etc). Lawyers have changed multiple times and one now claims they aren't familiar enough to let case close. Kids were 2 1/2 and 1/2. Now they are 5,3,1, and newborn.

Can anyone shed any ideas of light on our plight?

chec at cox dot net

Bottom line:

1. Grandparents don't have rights. You have to show why it's better for you to get the kids rather than reuniting them with their parents.

2. If you want help, you have to provide the complete details. Your little quote is meaningless. What was the full sentence and context?

3. You can feel that God is calling you to support your family, but the court doesn't have to put up with it. If you want to support your family, perhaps you should be working WITH the children's parents rather than fighting them.

4. You never mentioned whether you've completed the requirements for obtaining custody across state lines (if there is even a remote hope of doing so, you MUST follow these guidelines). If you don't meet the federally ordered requirements, the states SHOULDN'T be giving you the kids.

 

[Fred Johnson]

That separation was final as of Sept 7th, 30 days after Aug 7th. But at a check hearing one of the attorneys heard that the children were underweight. A few days later that was confimred as false and that lawyer came into line. But the state's attorney is not familiar enough to let case close and is dragging it the seven weeks to an evidentiaty hearing over the underweight issue, that was informally dismissed. The fourth child has now been born and the father is so overwhelmed without his Florida parents their to help. Oct 28th is approaching and other attorneys are comnig up with new issues Its like a combination lock where all the tumblers have to line up to open and there are 7 tumblers where at any given time one of two are mis aligned.

The bi-polar mom has family that is fishing and throwing monkey wrenches into the process. And aunt and uncle, who were foster parents, were responsible for the false underweight claim. CPS loves them and just ignores the fathers blood parents in Florida.

 

[Proserpina]

That separation was final as of Sept 7th, 30 days after Aug 7th. But at a check hearing one of the attorneys heard that the children were underweight. A few days later that was confimred as false and that lawyer came into line. But the state's attorney is not familiar enough to let case close and is dragging it the seven weeks to an evidentiaty hearing over the underweight issue, that was informally dismissed. The fourth child has now been born and the father is so overwhelmed without his Florida parents their to help. Oct 28th is approaching and other attorneys are comnig up with new issues Its like a combination lock where all the tumblers have to line up to open and there are 7 tumblers where at any given time one of two are mis aligned.

The bi-polar mom has family that is fishing and throwing monkey wrenches into the process. And aunt and uncle, who were foster parents, were responsible for the false underweight claim. CPS loves them and just ignores the fathers blood parents in Florida.

What exactly is your goal?

 

[mistoffolees]

The bi-polar mom has family that is fishing and throwing monkey wrenches into the process. And aunt and uncle, who were foster parents, were responsible for the false underweight claim. CPS loves them and just ignores the fathers blood parents in Florida.

Because the law says that they can not give the children to someone from out of state until you meet the requirements.

Either learn to work the process properly or stop complaining.

(not that your chance of getting custody is very good, anyway. Sounds like the kids are going back to Dad).

 

[Fred Johnson]

1. Grandparents don't have rights. You have to show why it's better for you to get the kids rather than reuniting them with their parents.

We want our son to get his kids. But his parents name has been trashed in the eyes of the court by social workers that they want to keep him in NE.

2. If you want help, you have to provide the complete details. Your little quote is meaningless. What was the full sentence and context?

"They appear to be open and cooperative with services; however as stated previously there is a concern with their ability to abide by the court's orders in Nebraska if their beliefs did not coincide with what the court and Nebraska social services had ordered as to the children."

3. You can feel that God is calling you to support your family, but the court doesn't have to put up with it. If you want to support your family, perhaps you should be working WITH the children's parents rather than fighting them.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY.

4. You never mentioned whether you've completed the requirements for obtaining custody across state lines (if there is even a remote hope of doing so, you MUST follow these guidelines). If you don't meet the federally ordered requirements, the states SHOULDN'T be giving you the kids.

FL home study approved the home for foster placement but added in three areas the false concerns about us and court orders. The FL dept ignored the fact we have a 100% clean background and have lived our lives for family and grandchildren.

When a case worker challenges our beliefs isn't that a religious discrimination matter?

Our goal is for our son to get his kids, but the paternal parents alleged baggage won't go away by itself.

 

[Just Blue]

Mr Johnson,

You are violating the TOS with your solicitation of other members to contact you. Stop.

 

[Proserpina]

We want our son to get his kids. But his parents name has been trashed in the eyes of the court by social workers that they want to keep him in NE.

He HAS his kids. You said earlier that he HAS placement.


Or do you really mean that you want your son to move the kids to FL?

 

[Fred Johnson]

We asked to foster care. The report request came down from NE to FL with foster care checked. Adoption not.

The home study interview was loaded with adoption questions. We did not handle that well as that was not our goal. Report went back with these adoption issues because of the incorrect home study being done.

Even our NE lawyer brought that out in court Jan 2009. Judge ignored and told me he didn't believe me.

 

[Fred Johnson]

Placement does not equal custody.