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Old 03-12-2009, 11:55 AM
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6 months pregnant- Denied Medicaid!


What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Florida

Let me begin by saying thank you for reading this and any insight you can give me.

I will make this as short and simple as possible.

I was only denied medicaid due to not being a "Lawful Permanent Resident" for at least 5 years. I believe that this is due to 403(a) of PRWORA. If this is correct, as long as the state you live in adopted 402(b) of PRWORA, then anyone that moved to the US before Aug 22nd, 1996 do not have this 5 year limit.

I moved here July 1995 W/ PAPERS and have not left the country since.

I have tried to research this as much as possible, and am now asking for some help. Can anyone let me know if this law applies to me, living in Florida? I know 403(a) doesn't apply to me if Florida adopted 420(b), but I can't find if FLorida did or did not adopt that.

If in deed the law does not apply to me and I should get Medicaid, how should I go about fighting this? As the title says I'm 6 months pregnant with no prenatal care, I do not have much time.

*EDIT* I have a full time job and I'm a tax payer. I'm not trying to "take advantage" of the system. Just asking for help for prenatal care.

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Old 03-13-2009, 10:52 AM
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Florida

Let me begin by saying thank you for reading this and any insight you can give me.

I will make this as short and simple as possible.

I was only denied medicaid due to not being a "Lawful Permanent Resident" for at least 5 years. I believe that this is due to 403(a) of PRWORA. If this is correct, as long as the state you live in adopted 402(b) of PRWORA, then anyone that moved to the US before Aug 22nd, 1996 do not have this 5 year limit.

I moved here July 1995 W/ PAPERS and have not left the country since.

I have tried to research this as much as possible, and am now asking for some help. Can anyone let me know if this law applies to me, living in Florida? I know 403(a) doesn't apply to me if Florida adopted 420(b), but I can't find if FLorida did or did not adopt that.

If in deed the law does not apply to me and I should get Medicaid, how should I go about fighting this? As the title says I'm 6 months pregnant with no prenatal care, I do not have much time.
Get a job in the US and get health insurance that way like the rest of us.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:00 AM
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Excuse me? I do have a job in the US, full time at that. I've been in the US since 1995. I pay my taxes just like anyone else. And have you not seen that stats on healthcare? How there are so many Americans that do not have healthcare because it is too expensive to afford? Even with my company's discount on the health plan I can not afford it. If my taxes are going to pay Mothers popping out 6-7 kids that refuse to get a job that want wellfare, I believe that a full time working mom like myself should be able to get assistance from the state for health insurance ONLY for my pregnancy. I'm not even asking for insurance for ever, just for the next 4 months.

I don't believe that there was a reason for you to be rude like that.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:17 AM
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Excuse me? I do have a job in the US, full time at that. I've been in the US since 1995. I pay my taxes just like anyone else. And have you not seen that stats on healthcare? How there are so many Americans that do not have healthcare because it is too expensive to afford? Even with my company's discount on the health plan I can not afford it. If my taxes are going to pay Mothers popping out 6-7 kids that refuse to get a job that want wellfare, I believe that a full time working mom like myself should be able to get assistance from the state for health insurance ONLY for my pregnancy. I'm not even asking for insurance for ever, just for the next 4 months.

I don't believe that there was a reason for you to be rude like that.
You don't think the child will need health care?
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:44 AM
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My child will get medicaid from the state because I don't make enough to pay for their insurance and he will be a citizen when born. My son right now has it as well. It is only used during well check ups as he is very healthy.

Working full time and overtime anytime I can, I can only make so much. We all know how the economy is.

If health insurance Didn't cost $200-$300+ a month, plus a $2000 deductible that must be paid before labor, I would get my own.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:51 PM
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How long have you been a legal permanent resident?
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:05 PM
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Since july 2007. But the law that was passed is only supposed to affect those that entered the US after aug 22 1996.

I read if ur state adopts that 402 one, then if u entered before 1996 (legal or illegal) and you are now a legal resident, they 5 year rule doesn't matter.

I'm not sure if its true or else I. Wouldn't be asking on here.
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Have you tried your county's health department? another place that might offer assistance with this might be Catholic Charities. Those two location might help get thru the quagmire of bureaucracy.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:28 PM
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The health department requires you to get a clinic card which has the same requirements as medicaid. Although its not free like medicaid, they do use a sliding scale to determine how much you can supposedly afford. The con to that is they don't average your bills in.
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The health department requires you to get a clinic card which has the same requirements as medicaid. Although its not free like medicaid, they do use a sliding scale to determine how much you can supposedly afford. The con to that is they don't average your bills in.
That's a con?

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Old 03-13-2009, 05:29 PM
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Its a con because for example a person can make $1,500 a month after taxes, and medicaid and the state believe that at least half of that is 'free money' that you can use to afford medical expenses. For someone single maybe, for a family that's impossible. They don't average in rent, food, gas, water, electricity etc. Although its better than paying out of pocket, its a con because they don't add in expenses to determine how much u trully can pay
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Bottom line:

You're not supposed to spread your legs and make a baby until you can afford to do so....100%. Maybe whatever dude that knocked you up can pay for your medical insurance, although he's not responsible for it.
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:37 PM
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Its a con because for example a person can make $1,500 a month after taxes, and medicaid and the state believe that at least half of that is 'free money' that you can use to afford medical expenses. For someone single maybe, for a family that's impossible. They don't average in rent, food, gas, water, electricity etc. Although its better than paying out of pocket, its a con because they don't add in expenses to determine how much u trully can pay
Perhaps you don't understand what a "con" is. From the dreaded wikipedia:

A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, or swindle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence.

Confidence tricksters often rely on the greed and dishonesty of the mark, who may attempt to out-cheat the con artist, only to discover that he or she has been manipulated into losing from the very beginning. This is such a general principle in confidence tricks that there is a saying among con men that "you can't cheat an honest man."

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Old 03-13-2009, 07:28 PM
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Best suggestion I can give you is to go to the medicaid office IN PERSON and speak to a caseworker. It sounds like there is a very good chance that you will not qualify, else why would you have been denied? But you should go over your application in detail with someone and get your answers.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:04 PM
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Wow, there are some really rude people on here. I'm MARRIED and have all the right to have children with my husband! I had planned on getting medicaid as I was told I could, then they turned around and denied me. I don't understand how some people can make comments like that to people they don't know.
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