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Old 10-05-2009, 10:32 PM
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Strong-armed health tests


I have recently learned that my wife's job's health care plan has decided to strong-arm everyone into getting medical tests to avoid facing a gigantic increase in deductible. That apparently includes spouses, too. I have no medical issues to hide so could just cooperate, but I cannot bring myself to do so. There's no question that this is clearly a violation of good morals as an invasion of medical privacy. As immoral behavior is frequently still legal behavior, the question is if there is any legal action that can be taken against it or not. It turns out the problem may, oddly enough, be with the company itself rather than the insurance company.

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Oregon

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Old 10-05-2009, 11:05 PM
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There is nothing illegal about this type of request and it seems to be getting more and more common.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:03 PM
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There may be an underwritter involved and/or your company is trying to get lower premiums if they can show a majority of its employees are more on the healthy side. Although they may want to raise premiums if they find any major health problems in the employees and dependents. Also, some companies, mostly larger ones, are self funded but have an insurance company administer the health claims but money for paying claims comes out of the employers pocket. Maybe said company is thinking of being self funded or are self funded now and are thinking of switching and are trying to get an idea of what their liability or what the $ amt. premiums could be maybe if they switch.

Ask if they are self funded. They can tell you, they just don't advertise that fact. It is sometimes can mean they don't have to go by state regulations for coverage of certain mandated procedures/treatment in your state if they are self funded.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:04 AM
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They still have to follow ERISA even if they're self funded. And whether they are or not self funded does not change the legality of requiring the testing.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:18 PM
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Soap box moment. I agree with poster about the objections to this. But, as posted, nothing to be done about it. Self-funded, fully insured, doesn't really matter. Fully insured the carrier asks the intrusive questions. Self-funded, the rei-insurer asks the intrusive questions. None are willing to take anything but a calculated risk. But, is that all that is wrong in the heathcare arena? Hardly. Look at the practices of the provider industry to find out why the insurers are unwilling to take risks.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:58 PM
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If they dont do this it results in everyones premiums going up and YOUR medical issues results in hardship for OTHERS just because they are unfortunate enough to be your co worker. We just had an incident at my work where a few people needed diaylsis and it resulted in HUGE rate increases right at a time when lay offs were happening and people could not afford to take that hit. It sucks for the people that need that treatment too, maybe thats why the big topic in washington is health care, unfortunatly washington is going to make it worse not better. I just hope I dont get sick even though im covered.
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