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kgbjwils

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania.

My son was fired 2 months ago. He applied for and has been receiving unemployment for the past month and a half. He received a letter that
there is a hearing scheduled in 2 weeks..He was a gen mgr and said the company does that to everyone they fire but no one from the company
shows up at the hearing..Why is there a hearing now, after he was approved
and has been receiving unemployment?

Thanks for any advice.
 


pattytx

Senior Member
Is the why really important? It is what it is. He goes/attends and the employer doesn't, the employer has a very good shot at losing.
 

Beth3

Senior Member
Why is there a hearing now, after he was approved and has been receiving unemployment? Because the employer is contesting your son's eligibility following the Initial Determation the UC Division made in your son's favor.

He was a gen mgr and said the company does that to everyone they fire but no one from the company Then it's a big waste of everyone's time but your son still needs to show up at the hearing.
 

commentator

Senior Member
commentator

Yes, and he should bring to the hearing any letter, document, stuff that maintains the reason he stated that he was let go or is no longer working for the company. Because if he doesn't take this seriously, they could cause his benefits to stop, and all the money he has so far received would be an overpayment.

If they haven't come up with another reason for his termination and they don't show up for the hearing, he'll be pretty much home free. But he does need to take this seriously.
 

kgbjwils

Junior Member
Thank you all for your responses..He is indeed taking this very seriously,he is very upset about the whole thing, he didn't see it coming, it hit him like a ton of bricks..He has the paperwork stating the reason..Could they come up with another reason without him knowing? Hearing is tommorrow.

Will he get the opportunity to give his side at the hearing?

Thanks again.
 

pattytx

Senior Member
Could they come up with another reason? Sure. Will it be enough to reverse the prior decision? We have no idea.

Yes, he will be able to give his side of the story.
 

Andy0192

Member
If he was fired for willful misconduct, and he's been collecting unemployment, he NEEDS to attend that hearing.

Some companies do appeal all UC claims, because it does create some added pressure on the former employee to go out & find a new job - removing the UC charge.
 

pattytx

Senior Member
That was my point. It would have to be a disqualifying reason to the satisfaction of the hearing officer.
 

commentator

Senior Member
commentator

As I might have said before, unemployment insurance is not the medium by which an employer can punish a former employee whose alleged misconduct was discovered after the termination. It's amazing how many employers come up with new information about what a terrible employee someone was when they find they are being filed against.

They can bring any sort of ridiculous and untrue evidence to the hearing. It doesn't have to be a valid or good reason for them to present it. It just has to be a good and valid misconduct reason for the original termination, or the claimant will still be approved, the claim will not be stopped, the former employee will continue to draw benefits.

Your son should not be devastated if he goes in and they appear and say all manner of evil against him. Everyone will be sworn in, and his testimony will have as much weight as theirs. If he has some sort of paperwork that the company gave him stating the reason for his termination, he should present this. Otherwise, he simply tells the circumstances as he experienced them.
Under no circumstances should he leap up and cry, "You liars!" or make a scene, no matter what they come up with. He should be formal and professional and not try to make small talk or interject comments either with his former employer or the adjudicator.

The company representative will have the opportunity to present their case first, since they are the ones who are protesting the initial decision. Then your son will have a chance to present his description of the circumstances. Then each side will be allowed to question the other party concerning their testimony. This hearing structure is roughly the same in all states.

If no one from the company shows up, your son will still present his testimony concerning the reason he was terminated and a decision will still be issued. He continues to file for each week, though he has stopped receiving checks. If the claim is upheld in this hearing, he will be backpaid for each week he has filed.
 

kgbjwils

Junior Member
Thank you so very much for your explanation,,I also was wrong, He was not given any paperwork from his employer upon termination. The paperwork he has is from UC
 

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