Home     Law Advice     Insurance Advice     Community    
Go Back   FreeAdvice Legal Forum > EMPLOYMENT AND LABOR LAW > Hiring, Firing & Wrongful Termination

Powered by Attorney Pages


  Find An Attorney In Your Area    
 

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-28-2007, 03:16 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2

Hiring/future termination based upon religion? (State=Oregon)


I'm not an employer, but a possible employee, and was woundering a little something on religion and the work place.
First, State is Oregon.

Now, there is this great job at a Christian Book Publisher that I'm applying for. Now, I am atheist(but fully respectful of everyone's own choice in beliefs). I am wondering if they would have proper grounds to fire me if it did come out that I was not Christian?

I am sure at most work places, such grounds is not alright, but at a Christian based company, I am unsure.

I of course wouldn't "wave it around" or anything. Mostly keep that side of me to myself, but if it did happen to come out for what ever reason it did, what can happen that is legal?
  #2  
Old 08-28-2007, 08:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 19,796
It depends whether the company feels that being christian is an essential component of the work duties (possible) and whether they can back that up in court if it came to that (doubtful).
  #3  
Old 08-28-2007, 08:13 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: small town, PA
Posts: 6,364
Have you asked whether being a Christian is required or preferred? I know for religious-based schools, for example, being of the same faith can be a BFOQ (bona fide occupational qualification), but that would be because they are instructing children. I'm not sure that simply clerking or stocking or driving in/for a Christian book store would be enough to reject you because you are not a Christian.

I'd be interested in other points of view, however.

I'd also be (puriently) interested (although this doesn't make a difference to your legal question) in why an atheist would WANT to work for a company that garnered their income from selling Christian materials.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody understands good sarcasm any more.
  #4  
Old 08-28-2007, 09:49 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,785
I'd take the bookstore's case. An employee of a store like that will frequently be asked questions about specific books, and for referrals and recommendations. I suspect it would be hard, if not impossible, for someone who did not "toe the religion line" to give the employer's desired responses to such requests. Would you expect a Satanic Bookstore to hire a biblethumping Christian?

On the other hand, if you are an expert on Christianity despite your own beliefs, you might be able to squeeze by after some long, protracted litigation. Is it worth it over a bookstore job? (That's up to you.)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by quincy
Nobody likes to be told they suck, even if they do.
  #5  
Old 08-28-2007, 10:40 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Vertiform City
Posts: 5,189
Why is everyone reducing the job to a warehouse clerk at a bookstore.

The OP is plaining talking about a job in publishing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pattytx
I'd also be (puriently) interested (although this doesn't make a difference to your legal question) in why an atheist would WANT to work for a company that garnered their income from selling Christian materials.
Because book publishing is a tough career to crack.

Let's reverse the question.

Could a publisher of science fiction refuse to hire a devout 'Xtian'?
__________________
I've often thought of becoming a golf club.
  #6  
Old 08-28-2007, 10:50 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 7,785
Hmm, not sure where I got the bookstore idea from, but, depending on the specific job being applied for, my reasoning could still hold water. If it's some managerial/marketing position, then espousing the "proper" religious beliefs is essential. On the other hand, if it's running the press in some sweatshop, then not so much.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by quincy
Nobody likes to be told they suck, even if they do.
  #7  
Old 08-28-2007, 11:52 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: small town, PA
Posts: 6,364
Quote:
Originally Posted by You Are Guilty View Post
Hmm, not sure where I got the bookstore idea from, but, depending on the specific job being applied for, my reasoning could still hold water. If it's some managerial/marketing position, then espousing the "proper" religious beliefs is essential. On the other hand, if it's running the press in some sweatshop, then not so much.
Probably from me not catching that it was a publisher. Sue me.

Now that it's been pointed out to me, though, I'm leaning toward this opinion also.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nobody understands good sarcasm any more.
  #8  
Old 08-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2
Well, actually it's a computer tech position. The main reason why I want it is, well, it's got great pay. It's what I currently do, only at a $6 pay raise with more hours. And being as young as I am(under 21) and soon to be living on my own, a job like this at that pay is just what I need to support myself.
And like I said, I am very respectful of other people's beliefs. I don't mind that it's a Christian book publishing company. It's a bit much to get into here, but lets just say that things like this doesn't bother me that much based upon my beliefs in the interactions that various belief groups should have.
  #9  
Old 08-28-2007, 01:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 13,388
I think it would be very difficult if not impossible for the publisher to be able to demonstrate that being Christian was a BFOQ for a computer tech position. Being an editor, a sales/marketing person, etc., quite possibly, but working in the IT department, no.
__________________
A person, who is nice to you, but rude to a waiter, is not a nice person. (This is very important. Pay attention. It never fails.)
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.



IMPORTANT NOTICE
THE VIEWS EXPRESSED ON THIS PAGE WERE NOT REVIEWED BY THE EDITORIAL STAFF OR ATTORNEYS AT FREEADVICE.COM. Thousands of professionally prepared and reviewed questions and answers in 130 legal categories are to be found at the Question and Answer pages at FreeAdvice.com.

F
reeAdvice Forums are intended to enable consumers to benefit from the experience of other consumers who have faced similar legal issues. FreeAdvice does NOT vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any posting or the qualifications of any person responding. Use of the Forums is subject to our Terms and Conditions which prohibit advertisements, solicitations or other commercial messages, or false, defamatory, abusive, vulgar, or harassing messages, and subject violators to a fee for each improper posting. All postings reflect the views of the author but become the property of FreeAdvice. Information on FreeAdvice or a Forum should not be relied upon and is not a substitute for advice from an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction who you have retained to represent you. To locate an attorney visit AttorneyPages.com. Copyright since 1995 by Advice Company. All Rights Reserved.