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rudy22

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What is the name of your state?

ALABAMA

I am 7 1/2 months pregnant and lost my job yesterday without warning... along with about 25% of the people in my department. I received 3 weeks of severence pay, lost 5 of the 7 weeks of paid leave I have accrued over the last 2 years and will have to pick up COBRA within the next 10 days. The company has approximately 500 employees. In the 2 years since I was hired I have been promoted over others twice, received 2 favorable annual evaluations and have never had any sort of disciplinary action taken against me, not even verbal. The explanation for the terminations was corporate downsizing. I was told the decision was based on individual production over the last 6 months but I am certain that some of those who still have jobs produced less that I did. I believe that my upcoming maternity leave played a role (the company's busiest time of year coincides with my due date). All I want is for them to continue paying my health insurance for the next couple of months, keep me on the payroll through the birth (I planned to work up until the day), pay me for my accumulated leave and then pay me the 60% salary replacement for 6 weeks (company maternity policy) I was anticipating. Then I'll find a new job. Is this reasonable? I visited the EEOC today and filed a claim but found the process more confusing than helpful. Do I have a case at all?
 


Sockeye

Member
You've already started your best option available, the EEOC.

I doublt you do have much of a case though, many people were laid off and unless you can show and the company can't disprove that you were laid off for reasons that violate the title VII act, you don't have a case. Unfortuantley in the state of Alabama, pregnency is not a protected class.
 

rudy22

Junior Member
Thanks for the advice, Sockeye.

I am married but going on my husband's insurance policy would cost more than COBRA, we checked. We are both college educated and have white collar careers. This will be our first child, we own a beautiful home in a suburb of Birmingham and have enough in savings to maintain our current lifestyle for one year. The only reason I posted any of this is because I believe my pregnancy played a role in my being among those chosen for termination. I thought the idea was to get advice from different sources on whether or not I would be able to do anything about it, not to be judged because of where I live. Grow up.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
Then what, exactly, did you mean by this?

"All I want is for them to continue paying my health insurance for the next couple of months."


IAAL
 
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rudy22

Junior Member
Look, I'm not worried about how the cost of the birth is going to be covered. There is no way that we will let my insurance coverage lapse. Yes, we have some money in the bank but why would I want to pay for something if someone else is still legally responsible for it?
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
rudy22 said:
but why would I want to pay for something if someone else is still legally responsible for it?

My response:

Oh, gee, I don't know . . .

Perhaps because it's YOUR birth??

What you don't seem to understand is that when you're fired, all benefits cease at that very moment.

IAAL
 
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rudy22

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No, I had not yet filed for FMLA. I was advised a few months ago by the HR dept. that procedure was to file 6 weeks before the estimated first day of leave (the due date is Sept. 10th). I had planned to contact the HR guy again next week and complete the necessary paperwork.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
The bottom line is that they are not required to continue paying for your health insurance, period.

Your case is weak at best and you've already taken the appropriate steps in that direction by contacting the EEOC. You need more than a vague feeling that your pregnancy played a part in your selection for layoff - you need EVIDENCE.
 

rmet4nzkx

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rudy22 said:
No, I had not yet filed for FMLA. I was advised a few months ago by the HR dept. that procedure was to file 6 weeks before the estimated first day of leave (the due date is Sept. 10th). I had planned to contact the HR guy again next week and complete the necessary paperwork.
This is good information, since you were advised not to apply for FMLA. FMLA is not dependent upon your due date but can also be used to cover pregnancy related time off and protects your job. When you file your EEOC complaint make this a point that when you went to HR to apply for your FMLA, remember these things take time for your doctor to respond to and for your company to process, that they advised you to wait to apply and now, that time coincides with the layoff. It will be more difficult to prove pregnancy discrimination with a group layoff unless you can prove that your pregnancy played a role in it. If it was based upon seniority is it one thing, if it was based upon performance as you say and others with less performance, which may be difficult to prove, were kept with such a downsizing.

Interesting that your severance is fewer weeks than your accrued vacation time which of course you had planned on using. Was your company maternity leave approved already? Don't forget to apply for unemployment. There are several employment specialists on this board, hopefully one of them can assist.
Here is a reference for Alabama maternity leave, unfortunately it applies only to education related employment.
LEGAL REF: Code of Alabama 16-1-18.1 You may want to dig here http://alisdb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/coatoc.htm

http://www.hklaw.com/Publications/Newsletters.asp?ID=80&Article=368
Regulation Requiring Employers to Prospectively Designate FMLA Leave Is Invalid

A federal appeals court in Atlanta recently issued a ruling that significantly changes the obligations under the federal Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 (the FMLA) for employers in Florida, Georgia and Alabama. The court held that the FMLA does not obligate employers to prospectively designate leave as FMLA leave before counting it against the 12 weeks of unpaid leave to which employees are entitled under the FMLA. In doing so, the court ruled that the FMLA regulation requiring employers to designate leave as FMLA qualifying before it could count as FMLA leave is invalid.

The FMLA provides eligible employees a total of 12 work weeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period for specified family or medical reasons. Though the FMLA statute itself does not impose any specific requirements that employers notify employees when absences are designated as FMLA-qualifying leave, regulations promulgated under the FMLA (29 C. F. R. §825.208) require that employers generally must give prospective notice to an employee that an absence is being counted as FMLA leave in order for it to be counted against the employee's 12-week entitlement. Thus, if an employee takes leave that would qualify as FMLA leave (e.g., for a serious health condition), but the employer neglects to designate the leave as FMLA leave and notify the employee of the designation, under §825.208 the employee would be entitled to 12 weeks of unpaid leave in addition to the leave already taken.

Recently, in the case of McGregor v. AutoZone, Inc., an employer successfully challenged the validity of the designation and notification requirements contained in §825.208. In McGregor, an employee of AutoZone took 13 weeks of employer-paid disability leave when she gave birth and was demoted when she returned to work. The employee commenced a lawsuit against AutoZone in an Alabama federal court alleging, among other things, that AutoZone violated the FMLA by failing to restore her to her prior position (or to an equivalent position) when she returned from disability leave. AutoZone maintained that it did not violate the FMLA because the employee had taken in excess of 12 weeks of FMLA leave and no longer had job-restoration rights. The employee, however, contended that under §825.208 she was entitled to 12 additional weeks of leave under the FMLA because AutoZone failed to notify her that her employer-paid disability leave would also count as FMLA leave. The trial court found in favor of AutoZone and ruled that the designation and notification requirements in §825.208 are invalid.

On appeal, the federal appeals court in Atlanta (whose decisions are binding on all federal courts in Florida, Georgia and Alabama) affirmed the trial court's decision and held that §825.208 was invalid. The appeals court reasoned that the express language of the FMLA statute and its legislative history contemplate only an entitlement to 12 weeks of unpaid leave and do not suggest that the 12-week entitlement may be extended. The court noted that §825.208 improperly converted the minimum entitlement of 12 weeks of leave into an additional 12 weeks of leave in circumstances where the employer neglects to specifically and prospectively notify the employee that the employee is using FMLA leave.

The McGregor decision certainly makes compliance with the FMLA easier for employers in Florida, Georgia and Alabama. The case appears to provide a hard-and-fast rule that employees are entitled to a maximum of 12 weeks of unpaid leave for FMLA-qualifying reasons regardless of when or how the employee is notified that the leave is being considered FMLA leave. Though the McGregor decision may impact the rulings of federal courts in the future, several federal courts outside of Florida, Georgia and Alabama have previously acknowledged the validity of the designation and notice requirements of §825.208. Thus, until the law becomes more settled, employers outside of Florida, Georgia, and Alabama may face liability in the event that they fail to designate FMLA leave and notify employees as provided in §825.208.
 

rudy22

Junior Member
Thanks so much rmet4nzkx. I will review the information listed at the link you provided and will be sure to mention the advice I was given by the hr dept regarding fmla when I speak with someone at the eeoc again.

What is referred to as maternity leave at the company in question (actually a private vocational college) is really just a short-term disability insurance policy. I had planned to use the time I had accrued and file the claim for short term disabililty after the birth. The disability policy would have paid 60% of my salary for 6 weeks. Anything beyond that was to be unpaid. I was told by the hr dept that my total leave could not exceed 12 weeks, period.

The time I had accrued consisted of 80 hours vacation, 80 hours personal time, and 110 hours of sick leave. They will pay me for the 80 hours of vacation and a 3 week severance but I am losing the personal time and sick leave. It is their company policy to pay out vacation time only when someone leaves, regardless of the reason.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
rudy22 said:
Thanks so much rmet4nzkx. I will review the information listed at the link you provided and will be sure to mention the advice I was given by the hr dept regarding fmla when I speak with someone at the eeoc again.

What is referred to as maternity leave at the company in question (actually a private vocational college) is really just a short-term disability insurance policy. I had planned to use the time I had accrued and file the claim for short term disabililty after the birth. The disability policy would have paid 60% of my salary for 6 weeks. Anything beyond that was to be unpaid. I was told by the hr dept that my total leave could not exceed 12 weeks, period.

The time I had accrued consisted of 80 hours vacation, 80 hours personal time, and 110 hours of sick leave. They will pay me for the 80 hours of vacation and a 3 week severance but I am losing the personal time and sick leave. It is their company policy to pay out vacation time only when someone leaves, regardless of the reason.
Then be sure to follow the links to that section of Code of Alabama http://alisdb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/coatoc.htm If your company had any state contracts you might be able to hold them the the state standards at least. In addition to making an eeoc complaint, consult an employment attorney or civil rights attorney.
 
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