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Suspended Without Pay Unfairly???

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Jburnett91

Junior Member
I was suspended from my job in the Casino Industry in MO. Only because HR didn't get my social security card in time due to misinformation on their part and postal errors. The entire I could have given them my birth certificate as an alternate form of identification. This situation has been going on for 3 months since I was hired. My employee badge was taken, I will receive points for everyday I'm out (you only get 12),and I had to quit Dealer School as an result because I'm not allowed on premises while I'm suspended. Is this justified?
 


quincy

Senior Member
I was suspended from my job in the Casino Industry in MO. Only because HR didn't get my social security card in time due to misinformation on their part and postal errors. The entire I could have given them my birth certificate as an alternate form of identification. This situation has been going on for 3 months since I was hired. My employee badge was taken, I will receive points for everyday I'm out (you only get 12),and I had to quit Dealer School as an result because I'm not allowed on premises while I'm suspended. Is this justified?
Jburnett91, it helps out the volunteers on this site if posters start only one thread that addresses the same issue. You might want to close one of your two. Thanks.

That said, mistakes happen and there is little you can do but wait until these mistakes are corrected. What you describe is not discrimination or harassment.

The other thread: https://forum.freeadvice.com/hiring-firing-wrongful-termination-5/suspended-without-pay-unfairly-610003.html
 
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cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
I do not mean this as harshly as it will sound.

The law does not give a hoot and a half if it is justified. The law only cares if it is legal, and it is.
 

Jburnett91

Junior Member
So basically I'm screwed and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it? How is it justifiable for a company to suspend you without pay for a situation they were aware was ongoing, offered no solution to, and tried to terminate me unfairly for an unrelated incident two days prior? I've never called a suicide hotline a day in my life just because of these extremely stressful situations back to back. Not to mention I've started back having anxiety attacks which I haven't had since I was a kid. And I put in here because I am 23, and an African American male who just so happens to be an excellent employee who always asks questions and just doesn't take whatever bull**** some (more often than not) white manager or person in power tries to feed me.
 

quincy

Senior Member
So basically I'm screwed and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it? How is it justifiable for a company to suspend you without pay for a situation they were aware was ongoing, offered no solution to, and tried to terminate me unfairly for an unrelated incident two days prior? I've never called a suicide hotline a day in my life just because of these extremely stressful situations back to back. Not to mention I've started back having anxiety attacks which I haven't had since I was a kid. And I put in here because I am 23, and an African American male who just so happens to be an excellent employee who always asks questions and just doesn't take whatever bull**** some (more often than not) white manager or person in power tries to feed me.
It appears you have issues that go beyond the one incident you originally addressed. But, despite your additions, it still does not sound like a racial discrimination issue, although it sounds as if you are trying to use your race to make it one. It does sound like you might have an anger issue that needs addressing.

Certainly if you feel suicidal, seek immediate help. No job and no situation, no matter how stressful, is worth the taking of your life. You have value, even if you don't believe your current employer sees it.

Good luck.
 

tranquility

Senior Member
So basically I'm screwed and there's absolutely nothing I can do about it? How is it justifiable for a company to suspend you without pay for a situation they were aware was ongoing, offered no solution to, and tried to terminate me unfairly for an unrelated incident two days prior? I've never called a suicide hotline a day in my life just because of these extremely stressful situations back to back. Not to mention I've started back having anxiety attacks which I haven't had since I was a kid. And I put in here because I am 23, and an African American male who just so happens to be an excellent employee who always asks questions and just doesn't take whatever bull**** some (more often than not) white manager or person in power tries to feed me.
The key is you have no right to the job. They can fire you at any time for most any reason. Unless you think the treatment is because of your race (Tread carefully, that is a LOT harder to prove than you think.), it is not a problem for them. If you are an "excellent employee", I would think management would make an effort to fix the problem.
 

commentator

Senior Member
Were you aware that there was a problem with them receiving your social security card? And you say that you could've given them your birth certificate as a substitute any time. Why didn't you do this? Then you mention that they "tried to terminate me unfairly for an unrelated incident nearly two days prior"? Okay, first of all, there's no such thing as a fair or an unfair termination. There's both legal and illegal discrimination. And frankly, it's going to be hard to show that you were the victim of an illegal termination due to race, which sounds like the direction you are trying to go off in.

It is illegal to discriminate against someone in hiring and treatment on the job solely on the basis of their race. A pervasive pattern of discrimination toward others of the same race would help show such a case. Does it appear that all the people of your race who are working there are being mistreated specifically because of their race? If so, a complaint to the EEOC would bring about an investigation, and they might or might not, far down the road see a trend of discrimination and give you a right to sue letter.

But most places are prone to legally discriminate against someone who is uncooperative about bringing in their requested documents, and who is prone to ask lots of belligerent questions and does not "take whatever bull some white manager or person in power feeds them." That is not illegal discrimination. It is just them deciding that they are not obligated to continue to employ someone who is not cooperative or productive or who disrupts the workplace.

If you are suspended without pay for more than a three days, file immediately for unemployment benefits. They will be your only recourse in this situation, as it does not appear that illegal discrimination is taking place.

You may want to get some counseling while making a new job search. Being out of work is scary, and having panic attacks due to work stress is no fun, but you still must reach a balance between what you consider standing up for yourself and having to work for an employer who has the financial/ economic control over you and the right to fire you.
 
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