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16 year old out of control daughter

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Sarie

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? CT

My daughter is 16. I apologize for the long post.

She is out of control. I have repeatedly asked Department of Child Services for help, asked her school, she has been in counseling since she was 8 for ADHD.

2 years ago she was admitted to a Psychiatric hospital for cutting and suicide idealations. When released she entered an intensive daily program (3 hrs a day after school every day). She stopped cutting (except for 2 more instances).

When she was 15, I was urged to apply for a Family with Service Needs petition. I applied and was given an interview date at the juvenal court. When we were interviewed I was told that FWSN are basically unenforceable and "good luck" and denied.

I was also told that unless she is in the court system there isn’t anything anyone can do to help me get her under control.

In Jan she was again admitted to the same hospital by her Dr for "risky" behaviors and anger. (she threatened both me and the dr when she was told she was being admitted).

Risky behaviors
Truancy
Climbing out second story window and going to boyfriends over night
running away
cussing and disrespect to all family and school officials (teachers, counselors, principals)
Sexually promiscuous
?? drug usage (marijuana)

They evaluated and adjusted her medications. Currently she is on 4. One for depression, one for ADHD, and 2 for "mood disorder". She was released after a week and sent to the same intensive program.

Now that she is 16 she can leave my house and cannot be forced to return unless she goes voluntarily. The police will not pick her up or/and cannot force her to come home. But they are very quick to remind me that I am legally and financially responsible until she is 18.

In March, during one of her “rages” I let her hit me repeatedly and then called the police and had her arrested. She spent Sat night in jail and on Sun I had her released on a promise to appear on Monday.

She was charged with a Class A misdemeanor – assault 2 and told she is facing 17 months in the adult prison since we have no juvenal detention centers in CT for 16-18 year olds. They gave her a protective order and released her to my custody with a return date. The protective order says she cannot threaten, intimidate me, and she must follow all house rules including going to school and therapy.

She has failed for the year and does not see the point in going to school since she must repeat 11th grade.

When we returned to court 6 weeks later, they asked me if she had been following the rules. I told them no, and she is angry because “I could have lied”.

At this point the judge had her handcuffed and shackled and put in the holding unit. She asked me and her dad (who lives in VA and came for court) what we want to do. She told us she is trying to scare her and she has seen too many of these kids.

I said I wanted her in a residential treatment program and she told me to let her go to her “residential program” – prison.

She said I could let her drop the charges and she will continue her behaviors
I could put her on house arrest with ankle monitoring
Send her to jail

We chose house arrest, which my daughter apparently thinks is a joke.

She has violated the curfew twice (which is mandated by me according to her school and doctor visits) and intends to ask for emancipation when we go back to court on Thursday. She also has told me she has a “plan” but refuses to tell me what it is.

I have again applied for voluntary services from child welfare and asked that she be sent to a residential. My problem is it is “voluntary”. Because she is 16 I cannot make her go.

I want to ask the judge to instruct her to go when we go back to court but I am told the court cannot force her to go.

An option is to send her to live with her father in VA but she needs help and I don’t think he can provide it. Outpatient visits in CT don’t work, why would they in VA.

If I have her sent to jail can I then refuse to take her when she is released and make them send her to a residential program? I know this is technically abandonment and I don’t care if it gets her the help she needs.

Any other ideas of what I can do when I go to court on Thursday?
 


BL

Senior Member
Unfortunately the system can only help so much . If She needs phyc. evals. and admittance , that's all they can do , then release her when she's stable .

Unfortunately , unless or until the get in trouble with the Law the go to Jail , especially if She don't want to follow the rules set by the court .

Have they tried adjusting the meds ? It trial and error .

Why don't you want to give Dad a try at it ?
 

Sarie

Junior Member
She lived with her father for the year she was in 5th grade. "greener grass" and all that. He was going to "fix" her.

By Christmas she wanted to come back. We both agreed she had made commitments in VA and needed to complete her school year so that we didn’t interrupt her studies.

By May he was begging me to take her back. Again I insisted that she finish school. After all it was only a month.

She was tried on different meds when she was in Va and again switched when she returned. I have taken her to several different doctors over the years hoping someone could pinpoint what exactly is causing her depression and oppositional behaviors.

Recently after an argument with a "friend", this girl threw her cell phone into a lake. After I refused to buy her a new one, she called daddy. He cashed a savings bond to send her $50 for a new phone. Unfortunately for her this is not enough money to purchase a new phone and I still refuse to add her to my cell phone plan now anyway. So I am pretty sure she has spent the money on random things like cigarettes and marijuana.

If my goal was to get her out of my house, sending her to dad would be the easy answer. I want to help her. She can be a warm, loving, respectful person, she is very intelligent. She is my child and I love her, I just can’t live with her behaviors. The behaviors of a person who must conform to what her friends expect of her. Actually even some of her friends are horrified by some of her more recent behaviors.

Thank you for taking the time to listen.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
You don't make any mentioned of involvement by the local school district. Does your daughter have an IEP?
Also, you can't let your daughter dictate where she is placed. You were on the right track with a residential placement, but then she talked you out of it. I know that's a tough situation, but all the promises in the world from your daughter won't help. You need to make the tough decisions and do what's right for her, regardless of how she feels about it right now.

I feel for you and I totally empathize with you
 

Sarie

Junior Member
Yes, she has an IEP... frnakly it's a joke. I am still waiting for the school to turn her in for truency since I am told taht a parent cannot report truency only the school.

I am still pushing for residential. I have been working with the department of child welfare to find her a place. The biggest hurdle is since she is 16 I cannot force her to go. It is all voluntary and I must work with DCF to pay for it because they do not accept private insurance.

She has not talked me out of it, I cannot find a way to get her to agree to go. And then she could still run from there. It is not a locked facility.

I would like for the court to supoort me and tell her to go, but I have a feeling the judge will "invite" my daughter to her "residential" (those were the judges words). The judge is female and she thinks she should go to jail for a while.
 

Sarie

Junior Member
So now we've gone to court and they raised her bond to 50,000 and she was sent to prison.

Now what?

Let me back up for a minute.

As a new person to this whole procedure, I apparently messed up. No one told me I was supposed to speak to family relations when we got to court. So we went directly to the court room. As one of the last group of people in the room at the end of the day, after waiting all day, the judge was angry with us.

Because she had violated every aspect of the court order while on house arrest, the decision was made to raise her bond.

At this point her father asked if she can have a court appointed attorney and a continuance, stating that I have been looking into a program for her.

I think the quote from the judge was "program schmogram, stop coddling her. Are you going to post her bond or not?" They had to call for the bus to transport her to come back since they sent it away earlier not knowing we were in the court room.

At this point I told the judge I am working with Child services and her application is pending a placement in a residential program and she told me to come back with a plan. Then continued to speak over me and recommend that I not accept her phone call pleas to be let out of jail. Then she dismissed us. We return on June 14.

First question, why did they not assume we were there? If she didn’t show up, I understood that she would be rearrested?

When the bailiff told me to go home and have her change her shirt (nice shirt but strapless) and we gave him her name so they wouldn’t call her and assume she didn’t show while we were gone, why didn’t they know we were there?

OK so now she is going to jail and I haven’t been able to speak to anyone about her medications or suicidal ideations. I finally got the attention of a sheriff in the hallway and after checking with his supervisor was told I have 15 minutes to return with her meds, but none of the narcotic ones.

So now she is in jail with half her meds and no change of clothes.

Can I visit her? Can I bring her clothes? At least underclothes?

What happens in June?

No one is telling me anything. The bail bondsman told me to apply for her court appointed attorney but since I am the plaintiff, I can’t. But I am also the guardian.

Does this mean they will review her application and on June 14 decide if she can have an attorney? Then they will lock her up again until the new court date?

If I don’t ask for an attorney, what happens on June 14?

Please help, I am tired, scared, confused and I’m not even the one in jail. I can imagine how my daughter must feel.
 

BL

Senior Member
You should be able to visit , and bring her underclothing .

The Judge is NOT happy , and quit frankly told you to quit coddling her . You need to talk to family relations , and ask for an appointed Attorney .
 
M

meb19981

Guest
I'm 15 and have recently graduated residential treatment.

My parents sent me to a private treatment center in Utah for many of the same behaviors your daughter has exhibited. It wasn't a court order, and it was extremely expensive, but it saved my life.

I recommend getting an educational consultant to help you find a really good Residential treatment program for your daughter. You can even hire escorts that will wake her up at 3 AM and escort her to treatment so she has to go regardless of her wishes.

It very well could save her life.

I hope this helped.
 

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