Because you stated OG was wrong. She was not.who cares, I doubt she would set foot in this amusement park ever again.
You can't know that. Furthermore, if asked, the OP will need to report it.How can she have trouble with applying for jobs when those background check companies will see nothing reported?
She hasn't been wrong yet, nor was she wrong here.Oh, well. Pretty sure she was a juvenile when this happened and when she turns 18, her adult record starts and the juvenile offenses go bye bye. So you would be wrong yet again.
Because the angel admitted itHow do you know this? where you in here head knowing what she knew at the time? do not make accusations, about things which can not be proven.
You mean...it's ANOTHER point she's right on.On this point, you seem to be at least some what correct. Yes she is equally responsible whether or not she knew they were stealing or not.
So, it's ANOTHER point she's right on.No, true and they are immigrates so if she was not a US citizen and commits a felony level offense then she would be eligible for deportation.
To sum it up, Ohiogal was 100% correct.
ETA: What in the heck is an immigrate?
You, Zigner and Ohio whatever need to get off message forums, and go read some law books. The law is very specific in regards to juvenile records and laws related to diversion programs. It even spells this out as a legal manner to have never occurred, so if you are arguing that she would need to report these items when she enters a plea into a diversion program then you and anyone that agrees with you would be wrong. Another reason why I joined this forum is to inform the misinformed. The law is not written in the way you all try to interpret it, it is open to changes and encourages rehabilitation. If she is under 18 and enters a diversion program then this is a "manner of law" as to have never happened or occurred it is stricken from her record (unlike you all seem to wish it was not) and it as if it never happened. If that sits wrong with you, your egos or whatever agenda you all tend to push here then I am sorry. You and all your followers would be wrong at the same time.
Her name goes into that because she is a thief. It doesn't matter she is an underage thief. It can be used in hiring decisions. Should I continue? It won't be stricken from there when she turns 18.
And whether or not it is stricken from her record that doesn't mean she won't have to account for it in some professions. And it doesn't mean she won't have to admit to pleading guilty to theft on college applications. In order to qualify for diversion programs you have to admit your wrongdoing. You are really ignorant. As for law books? Read several. Enough in fact that I am licensed to practice. What say you?
Oh for the application to sit for the bar, I had to admit to any criminal acts that I plead guilty even if they were expunged or sealed. I had to account for ALL traffic violations. I had to account for any bad acts and put them all down. So yeah, junior miss may very well have to face the collateral consequences of this for a long time.
Last edited by Ohiogal; 08-02-2013 at 03:55 PM.
Parents should remember 3 things: Love your kids more than you hate your ex; when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death; your children determine what type of nursing home you end up in.
Nothing stated by me should be taken as giving you legal advice or forming an attorney/client relationship.
Attorney-GAL in Ohio.
I've removed the knife from my back, polished it, and will one day return it -- long after you think I have forgotten.
Sealing/expungement of juvenile records is NOT automatic in PA (contrary to Redemptionman's whining)
(I have no affiliation with any of the following)
Setting aside all of the horror stories let's get down to what you need to do to protect your daughter.
1. Get an attorney immediately.
2. If you can't afford one, apply for a public defender.
You don't know what the evidence is. Your daughter may be telling the truth. She may not. Do not allow her to talk to anyone about this without an attorney.
Wait to see what the evidence is.
And remember: What actually happened is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what they can prove.
Last edited by TigerD; 08-02-2013 at 04:18 PM.
although I think I know the approach you are taking, if it is the criminal liability side before she is adjudicated then you would be correct but the chances are 99% that she enters into a diversion program so she really should not have to face any of the penalties associated with the conviction if it remains off her record.
Last edited by RedemptionMan; 08-02-2013 at 04:47 PM.
When you say arrested, you mean that the security guard called the police and they were detained and arrested?
Now, if your daughter was not caught concealing anything or trying to walk out of the store w/out paying than you/she has a good chance.
The judge/magistrate may offer a very good deal in order to resolve the issue that day. The two of you will have to show up and go from there. goodluck.
I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but anyone who wants to argue a point should at the very least spell check/grammar check said arguments before posting. Especially if a person are going to be condescending or rude or nasty.
Making simple spelling errors makes the person look less educated (thus their post is not taken as seriously), or makes the person look lazy (thus their post is not taken as seriously).
Last edited by Ladyback1; 08-02-2013 at 07:05 PM. Reason: corrected MY grammatical errors