Witness to underage sex act

[stmfitr636]

MI

I was witness to an underage sex act. I walked in on two teens during an act of fellatio. The 16yo male and 15yo girl were left unattended for no more than 2 minutes.

What are my legal responsibilities (not as parent but as witness), if any.

Would this classify under http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(svyde4bqigsuv255lsnzgi45)/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-750-520d ?

 

[xylene]

Please expand on your highly theoretical post.

Who are you to these minors?

What was the EXACT context of walking in on them?

What is your age.

What happened with the act after you interupted.

I do not believe oral sex is considered penetration, but I could be wrong. That could make a big differnce .

Additionally there are generally few requirement mandating the reporting of crimes, who you are specifically to either of these minors is a big factor.

 

[stmfitr636]

Who are you to these minors?

15yo girl is daughter to my girlfriend. 16yo is 15yo's boyfriend.

What was the EXACT context of walking in on them?

Mom left home for errand while I was working in yard. Not trusting them (2 teens, bf/gf) alone inside for any lenth of time, I took a "break" and went in for a drink. She was fellating him and they scrambled after being interupted... straightening up and such. I waited until mom came home before confronting them.

What is your age.

34 yo

I am wondering if there is an obligation to report (lawfully) or if the age difference (or lack there of) makes this an non issue, legally speaking.

Parental supervision will not be compromised in the future.

Taken from http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(mxbruh551ka23o55awqyvu55)/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectName=mcl-750-520&relation=next

(p) "Sexual penetration" means sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal intercourse, or any other intrusion, however slight, of any part of a person's body or of any object into the genital or anal openings of another person's body, but emission of semen is not required.

 

[tylersmom]

I noticed one of your other posts where you stated that you were putting bars on her windows and taking her door off. Did you ever think the reason she is acting out is because you are being way too controlling? You aren't even her dad!!! Let her actual parents handle it.

Also, who are you planning on reporting this too and for what? I realize it was a sex act but it wasn't in a public place and she or he weren't forced to do it. I agree that it is unfortunate that she is doing that a her age, but do you think trying to take legal action is going to fix everything?

 

[averad]

I noticed one of your other posts where you stated that you were putting bars on her windows and taking her door off. Did you ever think the reason she is acting out is because you are being way too controlling? You aren't even her dad!!! Let her actual parents handle it.

Also, who are you planning on reporting this too and for what? I realize it was a sex act but it wasn't in a public place and she or he weren't forced to do it. I agree that it is unfortunate that she is doing that a her age, but do you think trying to take legal action is going to fix everything?

I think that extraordinary measures must be taken when kids get into trouble (why stop at dropping off and picking up at school... my child's school would welcome me to escort child from class to class.).

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=317896

If I were you, (and I am, in a way... similar situation) I'd lock him in his room, slide wet bread and fresh skives under his door each day and kick him too the curb the very minute he turns 18.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?p=1286440

Off Topic
I'd pay the kid off then have him robbed and beaten the very next day. It'd be worth every penny. I hate liars and theifs.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=292287

Don't be suprised when your girlfriends daughter runs away.

 

[CdwJava]

It could be that stmfitr636 is taking action because mom and bio-dad have not. I don't if the bars on the windows is a safe idea (there are other alternatives), but it implies that she has been sneaking out of the house. And if she is willing to brazenly engage in a sex act in her home with adults present, it's safe to say she is up to much, much more risky behavior.

- Carl

 

[tylersmom]

It could be that stmfitr636 is taking action because mom and bio-dad have not. I don't if the bars on the windows is a safe idea (there are other alternatives), but it implies that she has been sneaking out of the house. And if she is willing to brazenly engage in a sex act in her home with adults present, it's safe to say she is up to much, much more risky behavior.

- Carl

Whether the bio parents are taking action or not, this guy is legally a STRANGER!! He has no right to do this, in fact his controlling behavior when it comes to this girl is a little disturbing.

Does anyone really think that locking a child up and pressing charges is the best way to handle an unruly teenager? Yes, discipline is needed, but this girl is only going to rebel more, especially since the man handing out the punishment has no business being involved. She will resent that and this will get worse.

 

[averad]

MI

I was witness to an underage sex act. I walked in on two teens during an act of fellatio. The 16yo male and 15yo girl were left unattended for no more than 2 minutes.

What are my legal responsibilities (not as parent but as witness), if any.

Would this classify under http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(svyde4bqigsuv255lsnzgi45)/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-750-520d ?

I will use one of your statements

In the wise words of my stepdaughter, "So."

And welcome to the real world.

 

[CdwJava]

Don't be suprised when your girlfriends daughter runs away.

Oh well.

Sometimes the choices are, give in to blackmail ("I'll run away if you do that!") or continue being a parent. I see the results of giving in to the blackmail all the time ... I have to deal with the criminal acts of the out-of-control kids when their parents have lost control.

I don't know the details of the home (obviously), but I applaud any adult in the role of a parent actually taking the reins of control to BE a parent and not their child's "friend".

- Carl

 

[CdwJava]

Whether the bio parents are taking action or not, this guy is legally a STRANGER!! He has no right to do this, in fact his controlling behavior when it comes to this girl is a little disturbing.

I have seen boyfriends and girlfriends living unmarried with the parents of another child for longer times than a spouse ever did. So what? if he is doing the right thing, what does it matter?

Legally, he has no rights to seek medical attnetion or access school records, but provided mom does not oppose his actions, there is no legal prohibition from him taking control of his home.

Does anyone really think that locking a child up and pressing charges is the best way to handle an unruly teenager?

Let's see ... hmm ... sometimes, yes!!

In this case, I would venture to guess it would be the boy going to juvie, but I'm not familiar with the laws in your state on this.

Yes, discipline is needed, but this girl is only going to rebel more, especially since the man handing out the punishment has no business being involved. She will resent that and this will get worse.

You don't know that he is NOT in that role. Mom may have relegated the role to him. She can resent it all she wants. But if it helps keep her healthy and alive, I'm all for it.

- Carl

 

[tylersmom]

You don't know that he is NOT in that role. Mom may have relegated the role to him. She can resent it all she wants. But if it helps keep her healthy and alive, I'm all for it.

Well then maybe the reason the daughter is so out of control is that the mother lets everyone else handle things instead of stepping up.

I don't know the situation and the severity of it, but trying to sneak out at 15, attempting to take the car joyriding, and having sex way too early sounds like alot of kids these days. Sad but true, and no it is not okay.

There is nothing wrong with taking control of the home, but this guy needs to tell the mother to step up and handle it herself.

 

[CdwJava]

Well then maybe the reason the daughter is so out of control is that the mother lets everyone else handle things instead of stepping up.

That could be. Thank goodness someone is trying before she falls into greater delinquency or self destructs.

I hope you would prefer his attempts at guidance over zero attempts. If the choice mom or nothing, then we might as well reserve a cell for the girl because it is highly probable that she will be added job security for the police, and another burden for the welfare state.

I don't know the situation and the severity of it, but trying to sneak out at 15, attempting to take the car joyriding, and having sex way too early sounds like alot of kids these days. Sad but true, and no it is not okay.

You're right. But one of things many of these kids have in common is a lack of control or involvement by the parents. Fortunately, it is still a small minority of all kids that do this.

There is nothing wrong with taking control of the home, but this guy needs to tell the mother to step up and handle it herself.

I agree. Hopefully she will.

- Carl

 

[ENortham]

Soo, since you're asking the forum for advice...I can only assume that you either haven't asked the mother about what action she thinks is appropriate or you didn't like her response. You obviously know something about the daughter's behavior if you're trying to catch them doing something wrong...so why not just keep the boyfriend from coming over? I'm a young girl and I don't see anything that can come out of you reporting what your girlfriend's daughter did. It would only make me resent you. I think the worst way to handle family situations like this is to bring in some unknown third party (you, the police). Makes people uncomfortable. Maybe I'm a different kind of girl, but what I would want is a little more parenting from my mom and a little less parenting from her boyfriend.

 

[gawm]

I would strongly suggest you have this girls mother take her down to planned parenthood or something and get her on some reliable birth control.

 

[lacolta_gabby30]

Speaking from a teenagers perspective, you getting the law involved is not going to change her mind on sex. It is not uncommon for 15/16 year old teens to experience with sex. Really, she is going to do it regardless. What trully needs to be done is have her mother sit her down and discuse it. Inform her about all the different consequences of having sex(STDs and Pregnancy) and then put her on birth control. Be sure to tell her that she don't have to be sexually involved with her boyfriend for him to like her, and if she decides to become sexually involved with him then to PLEASE use a condom, even if she is on some other form of birth control. Teenagers are going to experiment with things like that and the best thing to do is not push them away from you, but to be understanding and lead them in the right path to being smart about the whole situation.