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Old 02-24-2007, 01:55 PM
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Can the tenant change lease after lease is signed and moved in? (PA)


I had a question for someone and was kinda unsure of who I should ask. Recently, I started going to Penn tech. Anyway, prior to signing the lease, I wanted a month to month payments, non-student lease It is a YEAR LEASE. That was fine and everything. Now, about a month later my landlord is trying to make me sign a new lease. The old lease was 3 pages long. This new lease is like 30 pages with tons and tons of rules added on to it. I do not have any intentions of signing this new lease. He has some very very ridiculous rules. Only allowed to have 2 guests in my apartment.No guests allowed after 11pm. No one is allowed to stay in my apartment unless he is given 24 hours notice prior and is told who is staying, why they are staying, how they are related. No alcohol or drugs on the premise.(I'm gonna be 23 years old this year). IF there is he will fine use 500$ and could evict me. Bunch of other stupid rules. I haven't caused any problems or anything. I specifically moved into this apartment because of the certain reasons. Now, he is trying to change the lease to something completely different. I just cannot believe this. What should I do?
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:58 PM
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I had a question for someone and was kinda unsure of who I should ask. Recently, I started going to Penn tech. Anyway, prior to signing the lease, I wanted a month to month one, non-student lease. That was fine and everything. Now, about a month later my landlord is trying to make me sign a new lease. The old lease was 3 pages long. This new lease is like 30 pages with tons and tons of rules added on to it. I do not have any intentions of signing this new lease. He has some very very ridiculous rules. Only allowed to have 2 guests in my apartment.No guests allowed after 11pm. No one is allowed to stay in my apartment unless he is given 24 hours notice prior and is told who is staying, why they are staying, how they are related. No alcohol or drugs on the premise.(I'm gonna be 23 years old this year). IF there is he will fine use 500$ and could evict me. Bunch of other stupid rules. I haven't caused any problems or anything. I specifically moved into this apartment because of the certain reasons. Now, he is trying to change the lease to something completely different. I just cannot believe this. What should I do?
Thanks,
Michael Onofre
Get ready to move. Since you are currently on a month to month the landlord will most likely send you a 30-day notice to quit.
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Old 02-24-2007, 02:57 PM
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Absolutely right! Give notice, pack up, and move out. Perhaps the landlord will find a seminary student who has taken a vow of celebacy and silence to rent the unit.

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Old 02-24-2007, 03:04 PM
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i misstated my information, I meant to say I pay my rent month to month some people here pay by semester, I didnt want a student lease thats why I said month to month ,for i signed a year lease. From Jan 13th 07 to Jan 13 08.
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:26 PM
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You have a copy of the lease in a safe place that is outside of your rental unit ? if so then tell your LL in writting that you have a lease that is binding until ( date) and you dont care to change any of its terms. send your letter with a method that gives you a delivery confirm and consider paying your rent the same way the rest of this lease. Keep all your communications with the LL in writting too wether its a repair request or what ever.
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:46 PM
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Ditto FarmerJ.

Also, review your lease and make sure you don’t violate any of its terms. In PA, the tenant can waive the right to a 5 day notice. Meaning the landlord can take legal action as the first step. Make sure you didn’t sign one and get ready to move at the end of your lease term.
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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You have a copy of the lease in a safe place that is outside of your rental unit ? if so then tell your LL in writting that you have a lease that is binding until ( date) and you dont care to change any of its terms. send your letter with a method that gives you a delivery confirm and consider paying your rent the same way the rest of this lease. Keep all your communications with the LL in writting too wether its a repair request or what ever.
I photo copied the lease when I got it. He was trying to tell me that his lawyer said it would be better for him to have it that way. I know hes full of crap.
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Tell the LL to pound sand... His "new" lease already violates state LL/T laws and thus unenforeceable anyway...
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The landlord should not only be allowed to turn off the water, but he should also be allowed to throw OP into the street.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:41 PM
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DITTO Who!!! Your landlord is SOL....he may be able to get students to sign new leases and you don't have to,
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:19 PM
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yea im def not signing no new lease. I mean i already have a mom and dad I don't need another one. im going to send him a formal letter and tell him im not signing that thing.
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I I wanted a month to month payments, non-student lease It is a YEAR LEASE.
Please clarify, do you have a years lease? (Maybe I missed your answer.) The LL can not rewrite the lease unless you agree to it.

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Old 02-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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I think she clairified that earlier ...

she already signed a 1 year lease, paid monthly, and now LL wants her to sign a new lease with all sorts of new rules and regulations in it.

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