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10-28-2009, 09:16 AM
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=Nicoleasm;2396896]I think generally, people that post here are regular citizens. After posting a question, one can hope that someone comes along whose a licensed attorney or the sort, to give a solid answer. Seriously, people are posting from all over the world..one from ENGLAND, ive seen, asking for advice on what to do...so the best bet is what you (and I), have stated, very well-educated people or people with experience in the area
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Im sorry, but that was not proven:rolleyes
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Well, my statement was from my own experience with a relative and a friend, who made bail but have retained a PD(from DUI to a serious felony charges)...I dont agree with you, but then again, I dont have to, and vice versa.
| How can you not agree. I never said there are hard and fast rules and was so ambiguous in my statement that it would be near impossible to not agree. The only one point near an absolute statement would have been in regards to losing your job. While you may have experienced a couple thugs that were treated differently, I have seen many people lose their jobs because of their idiocy and criminal actions as the courts simply let them sit in jail. Quote: |
Again, they do take into account that you will not have income, I went thru this entire process with my relative. BUT we can agree to disagree.
| maybe that one judge, in that one court but in general, no, they really do not.
It's not that I am disagreeing with you. You may have experienced your friendly relative criminals and they may have been assigned a PD. All I am saying is that paying a bail can affect your ability to obtain the services of a PD. There are too may variables and possibilities to say steadfastly one way or the other though.
bottom line; there are rules in every jurisdiction that are applied to qualify a defendant concerning the services of a PD. If they qualify, they get one. If they don't qualify, they generally do not but that does not mean that exceptions are not made.
Since the rules over the many different jurisdictions vary so greatly, it is impossible to state, with any certainty, that a rule you or I am aware of is applicable in any, let alone the majority of jurisdictions.
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10-28-2009, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by justalayman  How can you not agree. I never said there are hard and fast rules and was so ambiguous in my statement that it would be near impossible to not agree. The only one point near an absolute statement would have been in regards to losing your job. While you may have experienced a couple thugs that were treated differently, I have seen many people lose their jobs because of their idiocy and criminal actions as the courts simply let them sit in jail.
maybe that one judge, in that one court but in general, no, they really do not.
It's not that I am disagreeing with you. You may have experienced your friendly relative criminals and they may have been assigned a PD. All I am saying is that paying a bail can affect your ability to obtain the services of a PD. There are too may variables and possibilities to say steadfastly one way or the other though.
bottom line; there are rules in every jurisdiction that are applied to qualify a defendant concerning the services of a PD. If they qualify, they get one. If they don't qualify, they generally do not but that does not mean that exceptions are not made.
Since the rules over the many different jurisdictions vary so greatly, it is impossible to state, with any certainty, that a rule you or I am aware of is applicable in any, let alone the majority of jurisdictions. |
LOL, okay I don't even know how to reply to you anymore 
This isn't even my thread...so instead of going through this entire spiel of addressing ME...why don't you direct your opinions to the OP..Im sure she would have loved this comment TO HER, maybe it would have been useful. You can't censor my comments[ever], so just give it up already, and move on.
And it looks like, the OP is not even checking out her question anymore. |
10-28-2009, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm LOL, okay I don't even know how to reply to you anymore
This isn't even my thread...so instead of going through this entire spiel of addressing ME...why don't you direct your opinions to the OP..Im sure she would have loved this comment TO HER, maybe it would have been useful. You can't censor my comments[ever], so just give it up already, and move on.
And it looks like, the OP is not even checking out her question anymore. | because you were the one posting misleading information.
OP obviously can read the thread and what applies will be read.
and to censoring you; why would I? I would rather your incorrect posts be left , with associated corrections by others, so others will see that you are not accurate in your advice and learn to ignore you.
and if you don't want to reply to me, then don't. My wife has been doing that for many years so I am already used to it.
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10-28-2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by justalayman because you were the one posting misleading information.
OP obviously can read the thread and what applies will be read.
and to censoring you; why would I? I would rather your incorrect posts be left , with associated corrections by others, so others will see that you are not accurate in your advice and learn to ignore you.
and if you don't want to reply to me, then don't. My wife has been doing that for many years so I am already used to it. |
LOL @ your wife.  No, all I was trying to say was that I would have rather had, THAT type of post in response to my original one, instead of "don't post your guesses, you have no clue"...That would have been more constructive for everyone reading the thread. I don't mind replying to you. You sound very smart, and probably know a lot more about these things. And I dont have criminal relatives, just a sister whose been abused by her boyfriend and had to defend herself, and my military friend who was charged with a DUI, and knows it was bad, and has paid profusely for it! |
10-28-2009, 08:12 PM
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I think generally, people that post here are regular citizens. After posting a question, one can hope that someone comes along whose a licensed attorney or the sort, to give a solid answer. Seriously, people are posting from all over the world..one from ENGLAND, ive seen, asking for advice on what to do...so the best bet is what you (and I), have stated, very well-educated people or people with experience in the area.
| Rather handy then that we have at least one Brit who posts regularly here...with Mostly Answers Of The Correct Kind.
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10-28-2009, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm LOL @ your wife. No, all I was trying to say was that I would have rather had, THAT type of post in response to my original one, instead of "don't post your guesses, you have no clue"...That would have been more constructive for everyone reading the thread. I don't mind replying to you. You sound very smart, and probably know a lot more about these things. And I dont have criminal relatives, just a sister whose been abused by her boyfriend and had to defend herself, and my military friend who was charged with a DUI, and knows it was bad, and has paid profusely for it! | Oh, I forgot so sugar-coat it for you?
How's this: Don't post your guesses that have absolutely no basis in legal reality....please.
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10-29-2009, 07:37 AM
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10-29-2009, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm You know, there are no lawyers, paralegals, or any gov't officials patrolling these boards answering and giving true legal advice. We're all regular citizens trying to help out people based on our own experiences and background. So you sound very wacky, right now..especially with your "Disclaimer".
Good Luck OP..I hope you get a PD! | I am a lawyer. So again you are talking out of your asteroid. OP, Nicole knows nothing of what she speaks.
Whether you get a PD depends on a variety of things -- income, assets (do you own your own home), the type of charge. Based on what you have posted no one can tell you why you were denied a Public Defender.
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10-29-2009, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm I think generally, people that post here are regular citizens. After posting a question, one can hope that someone comes along whose a licensed attorney or the sort, to give a solid answer. Seriously, people are posting from all over the world..one from ENGLAND, ive seen, asking for advice on what to do...so the best bet is what you (and I), have stated, very well-educated people or people with experience in the area.
Im sorry, but that was not proven
Well, my statement was from my own experience with a relative and a friend, who made bail but have retained a PD(from DUI to a serious felony charges)...I dont agree with you, but then again, I dont have to, and vice versa.
Again, they do take into account that you will not have income, I went thru this entire process with my relative. BUT we can agree to disagree.
OP: Good luck to you again! | PDs are NOT retained. Keep talking and showing your ignorance. And the poster from England knows more than you do about legal situations. You keep posting BS and YOU will disappear.
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10-29-2009, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm LOL, okay I don't even know how to reply to you anymore
This isn't even my thread...so instead of going through this entire spiel of addressing ME...why don't you direct your opinions to the OP..Im sure she would have loved this comment TO HER, maybe it would have been useful. You can't censor my comments[ever], so just give it up already, and move on.
And it looks like, the OP is not even checking out her question anymore. | hey OP, Nicole is wrong and has been very incorrect in all of her comments on this thread.
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Parents should remember three things: Love your kids more than you hate your ex (or soon to be ex) & when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death parts you & how you treat your children determines what type of nursing home you end up in.
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10-29-2009, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicoleasm LOL @ your wife. No, all I was trying to say was that I would have rather had, THAT type of post in response to my original one, instead of "don't post your guesses, you have no clue"...That would have been more constructive for everyone reading the thread. I don't mind replying to you. You sound very smart, and probably know a lot more about these things. And I dont have criminal relatives, just a sister whose been abused by her boyfriend and had to defend herself, and my military friend who was charged with a DUI, and knows it was bad, and has paid profusely for it! | Actually your sister is the one who is sitting in jail from STABBING her boyfriend. She is the violent one provably. Again, legally accurate comments only Nicoleasm. Hey OP, if you take Nicole's advise you are listening to someone who would defend a jailbird who stabbed her child's father and tries to excuse it and give it as a reason why SHE (Nicole) should be able to steal the baby from the dad -- because dad was STABBED by her sister.
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Parents should remember three things: Love your kids more than you hate your ex (or soon to be ex) & when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death parts you & how you treat your children determines what type of nursing home you end up in.
Nothing stated by me should be taken as giving you legal advice or forming an attorney/client relationship. The devil is in the details after all.
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