Quincy, I was polite the first couple of days while untrue allegations were repeatedly cast at me; I admit I could have reacted better on that third day..probably should have kept reacting the way I did the first two days
It was a "cut & paste" my thing of Rule 8.3
It says "self report".
I'll re-post the text:
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Comparison to former Ohio Code of Professional Responsibility
Rule 8.3 is comparable to DR 1-103 but differs in two respects. First, Rule 8.3 does not contain the strict reporting requirement of DR 1-103. DR 1-103 requires a lawyer to report all misconduct of which the lawyer has unprivileged knowledge. Rule 8.3 requires a lawyer to report misconduct only when the lawyer possesses unprivileged knowledge that raises a question as to any lawyer�s honesty, trustworthiness, or fitness in other respects. Second, Rule 8.3 requires a lawyer to self-report.
Also, you answer questions that I never asked - i said nothing about privileged information
The attorney must report his own misconduct; if asked about anything by the tribunal (court), he cannot stand silent --- he must say that he would be invoking his right of self incrimination.
The refusal to answer in a "civil proceeding" with the lower standard of proof is enough for me COUPLED WITH the other misconduct.
Again, what was frustrating was the senior members here leveling accusations and then running to the MODS when they were subsequently embarrassed by me.
Now, the same practice is being re-employed without me having the benefit of a deleted thread to show the balance of the readership what I dished out to you before.
A not insignifcant subset of you all seemingly can "dish it out but can't [subsequently] take the same in return"
This is not my forum; I don't make the rules
I'd ask though that you allow the subset of posters with sufficient knowledge to be allowed to help.
You attorneys here were all wrong... all of you... on the locked Rule 8.3 thread... and a lay individual pointed the correct application to you and subsequently made samrt remarks
I too would not want anyone to see a series of smart remarks by attorneys only to have the asker politely respond and suffix those answers of other members with the correct answer.
I'm here..that means I still need help.
Please allow those so inclined to do so unencumbered by the disapprobation directed at me by some of you.
Thanks again.
Yes, well, like I said, I did not read your other threads so I have no idea what you or others have and have not said or done to warrant the locking of the threads. Perhaps administrators thought that all that needed to be said was said. A forum cannot answer all questions. Sometimes you just need to seek out the help of an attorney in your area (or search out a legal clinic for low income help).
You made a statement above about self-reporting and you backed it up with Ohio's Rule 8.3 - and that is good. Many who come to this forum make or imply statements of fact and then have nothing to support those statements (and, in fact, their statements are often
unsupportable by laws).
That said, your statement on its own can be misinterpreted to mean that an attorney in Ohio MUST report all misconduct (their own and that of others), and that is not quite the way it works. There is very little that an attorney actually needs to self-report to be in compliance with the Rule (think federal felonies, criminal convictions). There is much that is exempt from the reporting requirement (which is why I emphasized "privilege").
The fact is that self-reports of misconduct by attorneys is rare and it is rare for several reasons. One,
serious misconduct by attorneys is rare. Two, self-reports work to potentially mitigate disciplinary actions taken against that attorney and, in the case of serious misconduct, there can often
be little mitigation - self-reporting is not really going to do the attorney any good. Three, there are exemptions to Rule 8.3 under which most other misconduct will fall.
Instead of self-reporting their own misconduct (whatever the misconduct may be), many attorneys will contact their local Lawyer Assistance Program. This can often make what might otherwise appear to be something that needs reporting, exempt, as it will be protected by the confidentiality/secrets exemption.
Finally, you are right that this is not your forum. How the moderators deal with posters is entirely in their control and not in ours. If you cannot accept the decisions they make (to edit a post, to delete a post, to lock a thread, to delete a member), I suppose what makes the most sense is that you find free advice elsewhere or you hire an attorney in your jurisdiction to handle your legal concerns (which is probably the wisest move anyone can make anyway).
(as a note: There are only a few attorneys who are members of this site who post with some regularity. It can help to reread the Terms of Service at the bottom of this page. Those members who are long-time "senior" members and who are not attorneys, however, are long-time members for a reason. They have proven themselves over time by consistently providing legitimate and accurate legal information and advice. There seems to be little tolerance on this forum for those who make things up.)
) and they should respond accordingly. 