Being Threatened By Brother In Laws Ex Girlfriend

[supercrew2nv]

What is the name of your state? WASHINGTON

Okay am new to this but have been reading a ton of items listed on this forum. Here is my dilemna. I will try to explain it as clearly as possible.

My brother-in-law was dating this women for approx 2 years and they lived in two different houses while "dating". While together they purchased numrous, expensive furniture items, etc with her money. She left the country (immigration issue) and basically told him she wanted nothing and to "do what you wanted with it". After a few months, and moving into a different place, he figured out the furniture was to large for his new home and that he could not afford a storage unit at that time. While the wife and I wre helping him move, he came up with a price to sell this stuff to us that was given to him. So now after 2 years of me making payments to him (200.00 mo), I get a nasty email from her friend who has power of attourney for her any issues over here stating that I'm in possession of stolen property and that if arrangements are not made for the return of these items she will contact the county sheriff when I live and report that I am in possession of stolen property.

So what do I do? I have numourous relatives who heard here say for him to "Do what you want to do with it". Do I have any worries? I understand my brother in law may deal with alot of this and be in trouble but what worries do I have.

Also, what rights do I have? Can I file a defamation lawsuit (the email is pretty much calling me a thief) or should I just not waste my time with her. Also, I have not responded back to the nast email nor have I called the number she listed. Anyone have a response for me to send to her which could shut her up? Thanks

[Ohiogal]

Originally Posted by supercrew2nv

What is the name of your state? WASHINGTON

Okay am new to this but have been reading a ton of items listed on this forum. Here is my dilemna. I will try to explain it as clearly as possible.

My brother-in-law was dating this women for approx 2 years and they lived in two different houses while "dating". While together they purchased numrous, expensive furniture items, etc with her money. She left the country (immigration issue) and basically told him she wanted nothing and to "do what you wanted with it".

Basically telling him isn't telling him. WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU HEAR HER SAY?

After a few months, and moving into a different place, he figured out the furniture was to large for his new home and that he could not afford a storage unit at that time. While the wife and I wre helping him move, he came up with a price to sell this stuff to us that was given to him.


Was the price a fair market value for the furniture? Or is it $1 for 10k worth of stuff?

So now after 2 years of me making payments to him (200.00 mo), I get a nasty email from her friend who has power of attourney for her any issues over here stating that I'm in possession of stolen property and that if arrangements are not made for the return of these items she will contact the county sheriff when I live and report that I am in possession of stolen property.


She better be able to prove that the property is stolen. She also better be able to prove that your BIL didn't have a right to sell the stuff and it wasn't gifted to him. Where was she two years ago with the power of attorney? When did the POA go into effect?
So what do I do? I have numourous relatives who heard here say for him to "Do what you want to do with it". Do I have any worries? I understand my brother in law may deal with alot of this and be in trouble but what worries do I have.


You may have worries but unless your brother stole the property then you are not in trouble with the law. She abandoned it apparently.

Also, what rights do I have? Can I file a defamation lawsuit (the email is pretty much calling me a thief) or should I just not waste my time with her. Also, I have not responded back to the nast email nor have I called the number she listed. Anyone have a response for me to send to her which could shut her up? Thanks

this is not defamation. Did a third party see the email and believe it which resulted in you having damages? No? Didn't think so. If so, did they see it because YOU showed it to them? If yes then that is not defamation.

[supercrew2nv]

Basically telling him isn't telling him. WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU HEAR HER SAY?

I was never there when she told him he could have the items but my other brother in law (BIL) has heard from her mouth while he was visiting prior to her leaving.

Was the price a fair market value for the furniture? Or is it $1 for 10k worth of stuff?

Besides the bed (valued at $14,000 new), I received a tread mill ($1250.00 new) and some pots/pans/dishes ($300.00 new) and came to a agreement with my BIL for $6000.00 for all and have made approx $4000.00 in payments (documented between him and I) to him so far.

She better be able to prove that the property is stolen. She also better be able to prove that your BIL didn't have a right to sell the stuff and it wasn't gifted to him. Where was she two years ago with the power of attorney? When did the POA go into effect?

Not sure the date of the POA. Her friend who has her POA had this when she left day one.

Here is the email, names removed for obvious reasons. It was sent to 7 different people in the email.

THIS EMAIL IS NOTIFICATION TO YOU THAT YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY. IF ARRANGEMENTS ARE NOT MADE FOR THERE RETURN OF ITEMS BELONGING TO XXXXXX XXXXXXX, I WILL CONTACT THE COUNTY SHERIFF WHERE YOU LIVE AND REPORT THAT YOU ARE IN POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY. PROPERTY THAT WAS STOLEN BY XXXXX XXXX (BIL), AKA XXXX XXXX (BIL). PROPERTY THAT YOU TO KNEW BELONGED TO ANOTHER.

I have recently learned that some of you or all of you have items belonging to XXXXXX. You are all notified that those items, washer/dryer, beds, coffee table, etc have been stolen and will be repoted as stolen.

These items need to be immediately returned to ex girlfriend, via myself. Please call for arrangements, XXXXXX XXXXXX (POA HOLDER). If they is not immediate return of these items, these items will be reported as stolen. Having possession of stolen property, especially when you know they did not rightfully belong to the person who stole them from XXXXXXXX is a felony in the State of washington.

This is not a game, this is real life. XXXXX XXXXXX (BIL) was to store those items until XXXXX , XXXX XXX (EX) sister could make arrangements for their storage in her home, given (EX) fast departure to South Africa. They were not given to XXXXXX XXXXXXX (BIL), and they most certainly were not given to you.
What was given to (ex's sister in law) by (me) (even though she has xxxxxx(EX's) $25,000 + bed
set) were a few pieces of Art work this is hardly the bulk of XXXXXX (EX's) assets. All of this can be verified by Ex's, XXXXXX and XXXXX, who were all present when XXXX (Ex's_ arranged with XXXXXX for her to get ALL of the items moved to her garage for safe keeping. This is an outrage that each of you are in possession of her belongings and that you know they belong to her.
You can state that you thought they were given to (BIL), however, (BIL) knew it was stealing when he gave you (EX's) belongings. Some of you even hid the fact from (EX) that you had her belongings, again proving that you knew that those items belonged to her and that you were in possession of stolen property.

We did not contact you before because we did not know that (BIL) had given all of (EX)items to his family members. (BIL) maintained that he sold all of her items, which is why we were in the process of contacting a lawyer in the area and suing him for the money. Now that we know he did not sell the items, but stolen them and gave the stolen property to his family, we will proceed with reporting the thefts to the county sheriff and taking legal action through that avenue. (BIL) put his family in this danager of being charged with a felony. Because you believed his many lies, you have become a part of the many vicitims left in his wake. It is very sad that someone would put their own family members in this situation. ......end


Hopefully this makes sense and there was no hiding it from her like she stated. Apparantly my brother in law intially told her she sold it and seemed fined with it, but sinse he sold it to family now the are claiming it was stolen.

[Zephyr]

was she able to indicate which items she thought each of you had possession of? does the xgf or her poa have receipts proving her initial purchase of the items?

[supercrew2nv]

was she able to indicate which items she thought each of you had possession of? does the xgf or her poa have receipts proving her initial purchase of the items?

She knows I have possion of the bed (highest value) and the BIL has possession of the receipts but obviously she can get receipts since I'm assuming she used her CC to purchase it.