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Old 04-25-2004, 08:45 AM
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Brother's ex-wife & harrassment


What is the name of your state? Iowa

It is a long story with my brother and ex-sister-in-law, but this is what I need to know. I am interested in finding out if my brother has any rights to sue his ex-wife for continued harrassment? He has been to court to get the amount he is to pay for back child support and has been faithful in sending it monthly. He had wanted to pay her before, but she would never work with him. He has a court document to state that his two girls are adopted by his ex-wife's new husband and so my brother does not have anymore financial ties to her anymore, beyond the back child support she "insisted" on having before the adoption could take place. So, now she keeps sending "old" court documents from Colorado to these child recovery services in Iowa and Canada(where my brother lives now). It has escalated to the point now that the last place she has sicked on him is going to garnish his wages and take his income tax because these people say he now owes $50,000 and he probably would if he had not been paying, but he is current with all his payments. He and his new wife sent the current court documents and information showing they have been paying faithfully, but they state they cannot accept it until the ex-wife calls and tells them to call it off. My brother's new wife called her and she said she would, but we all know it will not happen and upon calling the facility who are enforcing this, they state she has never called them. Surprise...Surprise!! My brother has been through this with her with each facility she can find....she spends her life seeking out ways to get more money out of him.
Can he sue her for harrassment and take her to court to get what balance he has left to pay erased? We understood that in Iowa, once a child is adopted, the back support or any financial payments would and should have ended. But she would not agree to that. My brother thought she would leave him alone after all of this, but she has continued her harrassment! It not only disrupts his life, but also the entire family. And with all that stress, we have all been forbidden to talk about, see, speak to, and have any contact with his two girl's. This woman is evil....she lies, she lives off the goverment by telling them she is separated from her husband....which is so not true! She does drugs, she steals (has been picked up for shoplifting), she is now soliciting for "some fun" on the internet. She does not deserve these girl's, but she's got them. She says she doesn't want anything to do with our family, but she certainly is keeping us in her life! Any advice or direction you can give would be greatly appreciated!!!! We are fed-up and want this harrassment and stress to end!! It has affected all of us deeply and no one deserves to have to live with this!!
Thank you!!
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Old 04-25-2004, 12:15 PM
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Problem is that since he is now in Canada (per your post), that is beyond the scope of this forum.
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Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 04-25-2004, 01:54 PM
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Brother's ex-wife & harrassment


Well, that is not how this is being looked at. She still lives in Iowa and so that is the laws they are going by. So, again, my question is, can he sue her for harrassment and does he have a leg to stand on?!? Thank you
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Old 04-25-2004, 02:17 PM
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" now she keeps sending "old" court documents from Colorado to these child recovery services in Iowa and Canada(where my brother lives now)."
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"She still lives in Iowa and so that is the laws they are going by."
*** Doesn't matter. The Iowa or Colorado courts have NO jurisdiction since he lives in Canada!!!

But, lets go ahead and play your game...
"can he sue her for harrassment"
*** Of course he can. After all, anyone can sue almost anyone else over almost anything..... at least here in the US.

"and does he have a leg to stand on?!?"
*** No.

"Thank you"
*** You're welcome.
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!
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Old 04-25-2004, 02:27 PM
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Brother's ex-wife & harrassment


So what you are telling me is that all the court costs he has had and all the time he has spent in the Iowa courts, since he moved to Canada(before all this went down) has no jurisdiction and it means nothing? So what was decided in the Iowa courts for his back child support means nothing? That the judge in Iowa has no jurisdiction in the adoption that took place here in Iowa? All this was done since he has lived in Canada. I was under the understanding it was in the state that the children are in.....not where the ex-husband is?!? You are telling me that is not so and just why isn't it? I am to assume then that all the hassle he has been through is for not!? That doesn't make any sense!! Please explain this further!! And as far as harrassment, I did not know that it mattered what state or country you lived in.....it is still harrassment....Right?? Thank you!!
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Old 04-25-2004, 02:41 PM
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"So what you are telling me is that all the court costs he has had and all the time he has spent in the Iowa courts, since he moved to Canada(before all this went down) has no jurisdiction and it means nothing?"
*** No. What I am saying is that a court in Iowa or Colorado cannot force him LEGALLY to abide with their orders. As long as he is NOT in the US, he can legally ignore ANY order from a US court.

"So what was decided in the Iowa courts for his back child support means nothing?"
*** No. It means that if he is in the US, the courts (even from another state) could be used to force his compliance. But since he is beyond the reach of the US civil justice system..... he can ignore them.

"That the judge in Iowa has no jurisdiction in the adoption that took place here in Iowa?"
*** Read above.

"All this was done since he has lived in Canada. I was under the understanding it was in the state that the children are in.....not where the ex-husband is?!?"
*** Again, read above.

"You are telling me that is not so and just why isn't it?"
*** Read above. You are confusing the domestic legal processes and their validity with his being 'beyond the reach' of the court.

Now, don't misunderstand.... I am all for him complying with the US courts. I am only saying that the US courts can't force him to do anything as long as he is NOT in the US. At least without some EXPENSIVE and time consuming international legal processes.
For the process of trying to enforce a DOMESTIC child suppport order against someone in a reciprocating country (Canada is) go to:
[url]http://travel.state.gov/child_support.html#help[/url]
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There are at least 17 lawsuits (!!) pending in various courts, including the US Supreme Court, asking if Obama is a natural born citizen (as req'd by Art II, Sec 1 of the US Constitution).

Why has he spent over $1.35M in legal fees to block disclosure... rather than spend $12 for a VALID birth cert to settle the matter? The 'certificate' he has presented doesn't qualify to get a drivers license, wouldn't allow a child to qualify for Little League, or for a real citizen to get a US passport!

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