How To Get a New York Death Certificate By Court Order?

[Dandy Don]

What is the name of your state? NEW YORK

If there is a New York family law attorney reading this message board, I need some advice on an estimated cost (attorney fees, court fees, miscellaneous fees) and how long it would take to get a court order to permit me to obtain a death certificate from the New York State Health Department. It is needed to do genealogical research to find surviving next-of-kin on person who has some unclaimed monies.

Is it a relatively simple process that does not take longer than a few months?

DANDY DON IN OKLAHOMA (tiekh@yahoo.com)

[JETX]

Originally Posted by Dandy Don

It is needed to do genealogical research to find surviving next-of-kin on person who has some unclaimed monies.

The process is very simple... and does not require a court order or services of a NY attorney.
The surviving kin simply needs to request and pay a minimal amount. For more, go to:
[url]http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/genealogy.htm[/url]

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by Dandy Don

What is the name of your state? NEW YORK

If there is a New York family law attorney reading this message board, I need some advice on an estimated cost (attorney fees, court fees, miscellaneous fees) and how long it would take to get a court order to permit me to obtain a death certificate from the New York State Health Department. It is needed to do genealogical research to find surviving next-of-kin on person who has some unclaimed monies.

Is it a relatively simple process that does not take longer than a few months?

DANDY DON IN OKLAHOMA (tiekh@yahoo.com)

Aren't you an attorney? You don't need a court order if you are the deceased's spouse, parent or child or representing someone who has a "lawful right or claim". To document the claim, you just need an "official letter from the agency verifying that to process the claim they require from the applicant a copy of the requested death record." <--- straight from the Dept of Health's website.

Once paid, it's usually just a week or two till you get it. $30 a copy, plus postage. They also used to have a surcharge for "expidited processing" but I don't know if it's still available.

(I'm also assuming this isn't outside NYC where they have their own procedures, in which case see the above reply).

If you still feel some need to start an Article 78 case, you're looking at filing fees of around $350 and maybe 6-8 weeks of time till you can get before a judge.

[Dandy Don]

I am NOT next of kin so that is why a court order is needed. Thank you for the clarification--now I have some idea of what to expect.

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by Dandy Don

I am NOT next of kin so that is why a court order is needed. Thank you for the clarification--now I have some idea of what to expect.

You don't need to be for the NYS geneology search. And NYC has the requirements listed above which seem to be easily met. Going through the courts is going to cost a fortune compared to doing it directly.

[JETX]

Originally Posted by Dandy Don

I am NOT next of kin so that is why a court order is needed.

From your ORIGINAL post in this thread:
"It is needed to do genealogical research to find surviving next-of-kin on person who has some unclaimed monies."

So, if you are not the next-of-kin, what EXACTLY is your relationship to this issue???
You are not an attorney, so can't be representing the family.
I guess the only remaining answer is... you are an 'unclaimed property troll' who goes and tries to find unclaimed property.... then somehow tries to scam/induce the individual or surviving family to agree to pay you an unnecessary 'finders fee' for the information that YOU got for free!!

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by JETX

From your ORIGINAL post in this thread:
"It is needed to do genealogical research to find surviving next-of-kin on person who has some unclaimed monies."

So, if you are not the next-of-kin, what EXACTLY is your relationship to this issue???
You are not an attorney, so can't be representing the family.
I guess the only remaining answer is... you are an 'unclaimed property troll' who goes and tries to find unclaimed property.... then somehow tries to scam/induce the individual or surviving family to agree to pay you an unnecessary 'finders fee' for the information that YOU got for free!!

SWEET! How much do I have coming to me?

[Dandy Don]

No need to be so mean, JETX. I am NOT a troll, and believe me, the families are very happy when I notify them of estates worth over $100,000 that they would not have been aware of previously without my notification.

This is NOT unclaimed property, Miss Know-It-All. YOU try doing a search for heirs and you will see how expensive the computer time and public records documentation is, and nobody works for free, not even you.

Note to YOU ARE GUILTY--YOU read the portion of the NYS vital records website where it states that there is a time limit on genealogy records that can be only be requested during certain years. If it is a recent document within the past decade, a court order is still needed.

DANDY DON IN OKLAHOMA (tiekh@yahoo.com)

[You Are Guilty]

Originally Posted by Dandy Don

No need to be so mean, JETX. I am NOT a troll, and believe me, the families are very happy when I notify them of estates worth over $100,000 that they would not have been aware of previously without my notification.

This is NOT unclaimed property, Miss Know-It-All. YOU try doing a search for heirs and you will see how expensive the computer time and public records documentation is, and nobody works for free, not even you.

Note to YOU ARE GUILTY--YOU read the portion of the NYS vital records website where it states that there is a time limit on genealogy records that can be only be requested during certain years. If it is a recent document within the past decade, a court order is still needed.

DANDY DON IN OKLAHOMA (tiekh@yahoo.com)

Holy crap, nice attitude you got there buddy. Good luck with your scam